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Warning.png Submission v095 Response to 638-2996-1-RV tdwg formal review. Note that I have added two fields to the template for this rendering. The first is the review comment(s) relevant to the given item. It is rendered in yellow. The second is response and/or committee discussion for response to the review item. It is rendered in green. If only a yellow field is present, I have made no response or raised no questions. These template fields respectively are ReviewComments and Response. You will see them only when you open for edit. . --BobMorris 21:03, 17 August 2010 (CEST)

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Contents

1 Terminology of this specification

There are many ways to organize metadata specifications, particularly as to the nomenclature of the constituents of the metadata. In this document and the associated non-normative documentation, we will follow closely (sometimes verbatim) a portion of the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative (DCMI) metadata nomenclature as described in Section 2.3 of the DCMI Abstract Model (http://www.dublincore.org/documents/abstract-model/).

  • A term is a metadata item that forms part of the description of a multimedia resource.
  • A term has a type which is one of "Property" or "Class", We refer to a term of type Property as simply a Property, similarly for Class.
  • A value is a resource - the physical, digital or conceptual entity or literal that is associated with a property when a property-value pair is used to describe a resource. Therefore, each value is either a literal value or a non-literal value.
  • A literal value is a value which is a literal.
  • A non-literal value is a value which is a physical, digital or conceptual entity.
  • A literal is an entity which uses a Unicode string as a lexical form, together with an optional language tag or datatype, to denote a resource. In MRTG, the language tag appears as a value assigned to the metadata record.
  • A Property is a term that has a value. The datatypes of values are specified in this document. Typically the values are either a member of a fixed set of literals, a URI, a numerical type, free text, or the datatype and values from an external controlled vocabulary referenced in the standard.
  • A Class is a term that has a set of Properties. Thus, the values of the properties in this set define what it means for a resource (whether multimedia or not) to be a member of the class.. Typically if M is a resource and C is a class, we say "M is a C". We attempt to minimize the number of classes, because we want to support simple serializations, notably text files such as "Comma Separated Values" (CSV), in which structured representation is cumbersome or impossible.
  • A Vocabulary is a set of terms.
  • Multimedia Resource is anything that a provider identifies as belonging to one of the possible values of the MRTG Type term and one of the Subtype term values. A mechanism is provided by which providers can supply a privately defined subtype that will not collide with the MRTG defined Subtype values.
  • A MRTG record is a set of terms with any property values conforming to this document, and which contain at least the six mandatory terms described below, and which describes a single multimedia resource (possibly including a Collection). One of these, the value of Identifier is a Globally Unique IDentifier (GUID), which may have been assigned to the resource by an external authority or by the provider of the metadata record.
  • MRTG terms are devided into two Layers. Those characterised as in the Core Layer, including the six mandatory terms, should be meaningfully handled by all consuming clients applications. Only wholly complete consuming applications need handle those in the Extended Layer'.


Review Substantive Item 1 The normative documentation ought to be free-standing, so some explanation of what is meant by "Layer" would be good.
Response rewritten as below:

Every MRTG term has a plain text Name, a URI, a plain text normative Definition and an optional "Comments" attribute. In addition, a term has an attribute telling whether it is mandatory, one telling whether it is repeatable, and one telling whether it is in the "Core" or "Extended" Layer. The Extended Layer comprises terms likely to only occur for certain subsets of metadata. For example, Elevation will never apply to XXX, definitely not images of species in the lab.It is strongly recommended that consuming applications be able to meaningfully handle Core terms, and that only wholly complete consuming applications need handle Extended Layer terms.

I don't really like the above response to "Substantive comment 1". It doesn't precisely define "Core" and "Extended" layers. Also, I intend to remove "Technical-Extension" as having no advantageous over "Extended". MRTG please add your proposals/comments here on this point. --BobMorris 04:44, 16 August 2010 (CEST)
I would list them in the terminology list above, as "A Core Layer is the combined mandatory or strongly recommended terms that consuming applications should be able to handle" (or somesuch), and then "A Layer, Extended is ....." I'm fuzzy on what our definitions were, but will come back and fill in if have time. AnnetteOlson 20:41, 24 August 2010 (CEST)
I've done what Annette suggests, but still not satisfied. What are we really trying to say here? Is it that Extended ones are rare? unimportant? Some standards address this problem through use of named profiles which impose specifications, among other things, on which terms will comprise the profile. For example, Simple Darwin Core specifies that any DwC terms may appear, but it also imposes some restrictions on structure (e. g. flatness) that are not implied by the standard as a whole. Are we skirting around (some future document about) how to construct profiles here? Maybe there should be a paragraph expressing this and saying that profile builders should somehow use the Layer value to characterize the coverage of their profile.--BobMorris 14:38, 27 August 2010 (CEST)
I definitely wouldn't say for Extended Fields - unimportant, but instead "likely to only occur for certain subsets of metadata." For instance, only a certain # of habitat images are going to come in with the field "Elevation", definitely not images of species in the lab. By saying there is a Core layer, we are saying there is a 'profile' that should be met. (if I am thinking what you are thinking about profiles). as for structure - flatness, I leave that for others to discuss (not my cup of tea) AnnetteOlson 18:54, 2 September 2010 (CEST)

URI's for terms conform to the http URI scheme (See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_scheme, http://www.w3.org/TR/uri-clarification/, or http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt ). Informally, one may understand this as follows: an http URI has the syntax of an http URL, but there is no expectation that putting it in a web browser will result in any information being returned to the browser, and if there is, it may have no relevance. This conformance requirement applies only to the URIs that identify MRTG terms. A few MRTG properties permit values to be taken from another controlled vocabulary chosen by the user. In this case, those values may involve URIs conforming to a scheme given by that external vocabulary, and MRTG is silent on what that scheme is.

Because http URIs are rather lengthy, MRTG documents follow a standard practice of introducing a short abbreviation comprising a "namespace qualifier" and a mnemonic name closely related to the term's Name. The result is known in XML parlance as a qualified name. For example the documentation below for the Identifier term renders its URI as " dcterms:identifier" but hovering over it will reveal that its actual URI is http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#identifier. In fact, most of the URIs for terms borrowed from external vocabularies (about half of them) do in fact resolve to something in relevant documentation for that external standard. Sometimes it is not precise because the documentation is a PDF document and several (different!) URIs might apparently resolve to the same place. Keep in mind that any fortuitous resolution of an http URI is not related to its use as an identifier, no matter how informative that resolution may be. That said, MRTG solicits discussion on the wiki at points where contributors find our association of a MRTG term with that from another standard as misleading or otherwise inappropriate.

2 Media Collections

MRTG metadata can describe either individual multimedia resources or collections of resources. A few, but not many, of the MRTG properties have different values for collections than for individual media. If no such distinction is mentioned, MRTG does not assume one.

3 Management Vocabulary

Name:Identifier
Normative URI: dcterms:identifier [1]
  Layer: Core — Required: ‘Yes’ for media collections, ‘No’ for media resources (but preferred if available) — Repeatable: Yes
Definition: An arbitrary code that is unique for the resource, with the resource being either a provider, collection, or media item.
Comments:Recommend to follow dwc best practices. Using multiple identifiers implies that they have a same-as relationship, i.e. they all identify the same object (e. g. an object may have an http-URL, and lsid-URI, and a GUID-number).
ReviewComments:2. �-Y΄Yes for collections, No for media resource (but preferred if available)‘ – there has been no prior mention of collections or attempt to separate these from media resources.
Response:A section in the prologue above now points out that differences between media and media collections are explicitly mentioned when they exist. --BobMorris 04:18, 24 August 2010 (CEST)
Should these be listed in the terminology specification list above as well, not just in the prologue? AnnetteOlson 20:45, 24 August 2010 (CEST)
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"See ResourceID Discussion
  • Use same mechanism as NCD for Collections. Shouldn't use "ResourceID" just ID. Recommend same to NCD. We should make sure we either have a "ReferableID" already or we need to provide one. yes? Greg.
  • From Recommendations to GBIF: support metadata provider GUID schemes for identifying resource.' Are we adequately documenting that URI element does this? --BobMorris 16:35, 27 February 2009 (CET)
  • NISO Object Identifier is a compound object of Type and Value. Should we recommend a parseable concatenation? --BobMorris 00:56, 7 March 2009 (CET)
  • xmpMM (Media Management) identifiers are probably also complex, further analysis is needed! --GregorHagedorn 09:03, 7 March 2009 (CET)
  • We need clarification about "unique". I favor GUID so that the Identifier unambiguously identifies the resource, no matter how one has acquired the metadata record. If we had a GUID for the metadata originator (provider?), then the pair <originatorGUID, Identifier> would suffice, but we don't have that. Even in that case we will need to say something like "the Identifier uniquely specifies the resource within all MRTG resources offered by the organization originating the metadata record"--BobMorris 01:12, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
  • Must/may a forwarder change the Identifier? --BobMorris 01:12, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
  • I do not understand how an Identifier is repeatable. Can someone please explain what this means? Particularly if we seek a GUID, there should be a one-to-one correspondence between an identifier and a resource. --Steve Baskauf 20:29, 7 May 2009 (CEST)
    • Multiple identifiers must have a same-as relationship, i.e. all identifiers point to the same object. Requiring that the object has only a single identifier I believe is asking too much. Books have multiple ISBNs, a specimen will often have already have a museum-barcode identifier, etc. - still providing a URI for those in addition to existing identifiers would be desirable. I believe fitness for purpose of identifiers differs, depending on purpose... --GregorHagedorn 00:17, 11 May 2009 (CEST)
    • I understand the need of more than a single <dcterms:identifier> in the same context, but I'm afraid that it may create implementation problems: we may need to distinguish different <identifier>s because they should be rendered or processed in different way. In our case they only could be distinguished by their contents, that may not be always possible. To make schema more flexible and extensible, I would allow attributes from user's namespace (unspecified by schema like my:process_url="http://example.com/getMyImage/"). Such 'foreign' attributes are not allowed by DwC schemas but why not to have a different, <mrtg:identifier>? If an idea of any Attribute is not acceptable, I would suggest, at the very least, an optional id attribute for every element in MRTG namespaces (particularly in wrappers like <MRTGCore id="value">: another problem with <identifier> elements that they may not be suitable as primary key in the relational database, and in any case, ID attribute are so handy that I would not ignore such an opportunity. --AlexeyZinovjev 13:37, 27 November 2009 (CET)
Post Review DiscussionA sample public comment--BobMorris 21:39, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
Name:Type
Normative URI: dcterms:type [1]
  Layer: Core — Required: Yes — Repeatable: No
Definition: Any dcmi type term from http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-type-vocabulary/ may be used. Recommended terms are Collection, StillImage, Sound, MovingImage, InteractiveResource, Text. Also recommended are PanAndZoomImage , 3DStillImage, and 3DMovingImage.
Comments:A Collection should be given type http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Collection. If the resource is a Collection, this item does not identify what types of objects it may contain. Following the DC recommendations at http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text, images of text should be marked as Text.
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"Do we mean to require the dcmi URL, or do we accept these dcmi Labels? --BobMorris 17:38, 14 March 2009 (CET) Now that DwC has been accepted as a TDWG standard, I have returned to a previous task, which was to try to hammer out a schema for the SERNEC plant image collection. This collection will integrate live plant images with images from specimens. Thus the schema will mostly be imported from the DwC schema (for specimen metadata) and the MRTG schema (for images) when it is done. Both schemas include the "dcterms:" namespace and accept dcterms:type as the element to identify the class into which the resource falls. However, the problem is that the recommended terms given under the DwC dcterms:type and the terms given here for dcterms:type are in conflict. Discussion Continues on MRTGv08 Type term inconsistent with DwC Steve Baskauf 05:34, 14 October 2009 (CEST)
Name:Subtype
Normative URI:

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mrtg:subtype [2]
  Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
Definition: Any of Drawing, Painting, Logo, Icon, Illustration, Graphic, Photograph, Animation, Film, SlideShow, DesignPlan, Diagram, Map, MusicalNotation, IdentificationKey, ScannedText, RecordedText, RecordedOrganism, TaxonPage, MultimediaLearningObject, VirtualRealityEnvironment, GlossaryPage.

These values may either be used in their literal form, or with their full namespace, e. g. Information about submission as TDWG standard
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mrtg:identificationKey [2]
Comments:This does not apply to Collection objects. The vocabulary may be extended by users provided they identify the term by a URI which is not in the mrtg namespace (for example, using "http://my.inst.org/namespace/metadata/subtype/repair-manual". Conforming applications may choose to ignore these.
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* I don't follow the extension suggestion. Values of mrtg:Subtype are not given a URI. Is the suggestion that people can define, e. g. myURI:Subtype? Is this kind of extension permitted anywhere? Do we mean to specify a recommended semantics for it? --BobMorris 04:17, 22 March 2009 (CET)
    • I think values of mrtg:Subtype are in the mrtg namespace. I added an example, does this make it clear?
  • --BobMorris 23:28, 15 August 2009 (CEST) says: This seems difficult to model in OWL 1.0 and maybe in XML Schema. In OWL, supports enumerated data types via the use of owl:DataRange, albeit clumsily. However, reasoning on enumerations is limited and may not support the ability to reason on extensions, possibly unless we simply make the Subtype values be of type xsd:string:
"Tools may vary in terms of support for datatype reasoning. As a minimum, tools must support datatype reasoning for the XML Schema datatypes xsd:string and xsd:integer. OWL Full tools must also support rdf:XMLLiteral. For unsupported datatypes, lexically identical literals should be considered equal, whereas lexically different literals would not be known to be either equal or unequal. Unrecognized datatypes should be treated in the same way as unsupported datatypes. OWL 1.0 DatatypeSupport
Oh, wait. In order to make MRTG Type be identical to dc:type, the type names have to be the names of subclasses of MediaResource. Thus so should be these. Then the extension issue goes away in RDFS at least.
Name:Title
Normative URI: dcterms:title [1]
  Layer: Core — Required: Yes — Repeatable: No
Definition: Concise title, name, or brief descriptive label of institution, resource collection, or individual resource. This field should include the complete title with all the subtitles, if any.
Comments:The title facilitates interactions with humans: e.g. the title could be used as display text of hyperlinks or to provide a choice of images in a pick list. The title is therefore highly useful and an effort should be made to provide it, where not already available. When the resource is a collection without an institutional or official name, but with a thematic content, a descriptive title, e. g. ΄Urban Ants of New England‘ would be suitable. In individual media resources depicting taxa, the scientific name or names of taxa often form a good title. Common names in addition to or instead of scientific names are also acceptable. Indications of action or roles captured by the media resource, such as predatory acts, are desirable (΄Rattlesnake eating deer mouse‘, ΄Pollinators of California Native Plants‘).
ReviewComments:3. ΄The taxon name(s) will form a good substitute title.‘ – presumably this could/should be qualified to state that they will form a good title for media resources which portray one or more taxa – not so much e. g. for collections.
Response:I agree. The phrase "substitute" should be taken out. and I like their phrasing of 'for media resources which portray one or more taxa.' For LIFE, we use a combination of scientific name and common name when one taxa, and just common names when more than one. We also use titles that indicate any action shown in the media - Such as "rattlesnake eating deer mouse." I would suggest adding the phrase: 'Common names in addition to taxonomic names are also acceptable, as are indications of action captured by the media resource, such as predatory acts.' I forgot, do we discuss anywhere about Best Practices documents to be constructed (and by whom)?. Because further instruction for how to construct a title really should be elswhere.AnnetteOlson 20:56, 24 August 2010 (CEST)

Enhanced Commentary. Edit at will --BobMorris 22:11, 27 August 2010 (CEST)

Reworded, trying to address all comments. Gregor Hagedorn 12:38, 29 August 2010 (CEST)

I made some minor wording changes. AnnetteOlson 19:01, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"I recommended adding a phrase, that the title should be descriptive of the resource when not an official label.AnnetteOlson 00:11, 4 February 2010 (CET)
Name:Metadata Date
Normative URI: xmp:MetadataDate[3]
  Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
Definition: Point in time recording when the last modification to metadata (not necessarily the media object itself) occurred. The date and time must comply with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) datetime practice, which requires that date and time representation correspond to ISO 8601:1998, but with year fields always comprising 4 digits. This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004. AC datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/'). See also the wikipedia IS0 8601 entry for further explanation and examples.
Comments:This is not dcterms:modified, which refers to the resource itself rather than its metadata. A use case is incremental harvesting: the holder of metadata who also holds the resources may be receiving metadata more frequently than the underlying resources; thus this date information may help a user harvesting the metadata to decide whether updating is necessary.
ReviewComments:4.΄This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004 MRTG datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/').‘ – needs a period/fullstop before MRTG. Otherwise seems to speak of ΄8601:2004 MRTG datetime values‘ and then to slip into syntactic incoherence.

5. Why the mismatch between ΄Metadata Modified‘ and xmp:MetadataDate?

6.΄Use case: a)‘ for Metadata Modified implies that b) and perhaps c) may follow.
Response:4. Note this must be addressed in several places. --BobMorris 19:11, 17 August 2010 (CEST) Actually, the errant full stop was in a template. I have fixed it there and this will fix all occurrences. --BobMorris 22:47, 28 August 2010 (CEST)

5. I have made name and URI consistent. --BobMorris 22:47, 28 August 2010 (CEST)

Did Gregor map these fields to xmp? I cannot find the xmp version of the terms using the item uri AnnetteOlson 21:10, 24 August 2010 (CEST)

You have to go down to the footnote, which explains that terms in the xmp namespace are not resolvable. Rather, for further information from Adobe documentation, you have to open the referenced PDF document and look around. In this particular case, the footnote needs a little addition, because this particular URI is in "Part 1" of an Adobe document and the citation is to "Part 2" which in the current edition simply refers to Part 1 anyway. I will address this, as it may impact other xmp terms as well. We have to check whether all the xmp we use is in a single Part of the Adobe documentation. I may address it by assigning the problem to Gregor. :-) --BobMorris 22:47, 28 August 2010 (CEST)
Gregor: Shouldn't the "NS xmp" template be changed so that there is no link on the URI, since it doesn't resolve. This is how "NS Iptc4xmp" is handled. If yes, please do so; I don't want to break it. Thanks. --BobMorris 22:47, 28 August 2010 (CEST)
Good point, thanks Annette! I did change or at least tried. However, cross-checking the PDF Part 1 and 2 is unfortunately beyond my abilities for the coming weeks Gregor Hagedorn 12:38, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
After I look at the remainder of the comments, I will carefully check all the xmp citations as to whether they are correctly cited in Part 1 or Part 2. I notice we no longer even have any footnotes citing Part 1, so I am sure that's wrong. Making this bold to remind myself. --BobMorris 23:29, 10 September 2010 (CEST)
6. I have reworded so the problem goes away. --BobMorris 20:10, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* W3C datetime types were based on IS0 8601 but these standards are not the same. For example, xs:date or dateTime used by XML Schemas do not allow date ranges like 2009-01-01/2009-12-01; see also notes to another term(s) of datetime type below. --AlexeyZinovjev 21:12, 11 December 2009 (CET)
Name:Metadata Language
Normative URI:

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mrtg:metadataLanguage [2]
  Layer: Core — Required: Yes — Repeatable: No
Definition: Language of description and other metadata (but not necessarily of the image itself) represented in ISO639-1 or -3.
Comments:This is NOT dcterms:language [1], which is about the resource, not the metadata. This is deliberately single-valued, imposing a requirement that multi-lingual metadata be represented as separate, complete, metadata records in which also the language-neutral items appear. Consumers can re-combine records by identity of multimedia Resource IDs (which are highly recommended to supply). In the face of metadata records of several languages for the same resource, this normative document offers no guidance as to how to disambiguate what language applies to what metadata. To disambiguate this, the metadata provider can provide a separate MRTG object for each different MetadataLanguage, each such MRTG object referring to the same multimedia resource Identifier. This comes at a cost of repeated data for the "language neutral" metadata items, but the alternative is to have a complex hierarchical structure for a MRTG object. Nothing in this document would prevent an implementer, e. g. of an XML-Schema representation, from providing a fully hierarchical schema and disambiguating that way. Users of particular implementation should consult documentation specific for that implementation on this point, but it should always be correct, if convenient, to provide one metadata record per language.
ReviewComments: 7. On Metadata Language, I appreciate the separation of different language versions, but how are these different versions requested and served – are there viable and reasonable standards for this? Otherwise the whole concept of multiple metadata languages may not make sense.
Response:This is related to a generic problem that we need to address more explicitly perhaps at the beginning, perhaps in a best practices document or perhaps on each of the (many) properties affected. The issue is: to which other MRTG properties does this one apply? To disambiguate this, the metadata provider should provide a separate MRTG object for each different MetadataLanguage, each object referring to the same multimedia resource Identifier. This comes at a cost of repeated data for the "language neutral" metadata items, but the alternative is to have a complex hierarchical structure for a MRTG object. We are trying to keep the normative definitions as flat as possible. Nothing would prevent an implementer, e. g. of an XML-Schema representation, from providing a fully hierarchical schema and disambiguating that way. The proposed XML-Schema and the proposed simple RDF representations do not do that, and so those implementers should document the need to have one MetadataLanguage per MRTG record. In summary, because that architecture is always possible, the normative schema is intentionally silent on disambiguation strategy. --BobMorris 21:03, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
I would add above 'multimedia resource' to the phrase 'each object referring to the same 'multimedia resource' Identifier.' (because one can have identifiers for metadata versions as well). Currently LIFE has repeated metadata records (one in English and one in Spanish) for particular resources (not all of our resources, just about 1000 so far). As for the rest of what you talk about Bob regarding XML and RDF - I'm not sure what all that means, so I'll keep quiet on that.AnnetteOlson 21:10, 24 August 2010 (CEST)
Although a language-specific resolution (requested and served) may be desirable, this is not in the scope of this standard. Also, the problem may not be urgent in practice, because usually only 1 or few language metadata records will exists. Serving all languages on a generic request is a plausible solution. Gregor Hagedorn 12:38, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
I have incorporated the response comments into the normative comments. In general, the normative comments could provide a sort of generic best practices "document" that can guide users and implementers. Due to said incorporation, I am closing this issue, unless people need to reopen it. If you choose to edit my text though, please leave a comment here so we will know it changed. --BobMorris 23:44, 10 September 2010 (CEST)
Name:Provider Managed ID
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mrtg:providerManagedID [2]
  Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
Definition: A free-form identifier (a simple number, an alphanumeric code, a URL, etc.) that is unique and meaningful primarily for the data provider.
Comments:Ideally, this would be a globally unique identifier (GUID), but the provider is encouraged to supply any form of identifier that simplifies communications on resources within the project and help to locate individual data items in the provider's data repositories. It is the provider's decision whether to expose this value or not.
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion", it should be together with Resource ID in management.--GregorHagedorn 08:48, 23 February 2009 (CET) used by providers for resources located locally, offline.
Name:Rating
Normative URI: xmp:Rating[3]
  Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
Definition: A rating of the media resources, provided by users or editors, with -1 defining ΄rejected‘, ΄0‘ defining ΄unrated‘, and ΄1‘ (worst) to ΄5‘ (best).
Comments:The origin of the rating is not communicated. It may, e. g., be based on user feedback or on editorial ratings. If Rating is not present, a value of 0 may be assumed.
ReviewComments:8. Does Rating relate to the metadata or the associated media resource or the combination of the two?
Response:What is the xmp definition? I think we should follow that. If that is not clear, I again think that we should provide a term that provides a description of the rating system. And if that is no longer an option, then we are expected to define it here and recommend best practices - which I really think isn't our call. I know that we (LIFE) would probably implement it in multiple ways - a way to judge the image (this one is suitable for brochures....), the metadata (though we use peer-reviewed for that), or an overall rating that combines them all. How does K2N use it? AnnetteOlson 21:22, 24 August 2010 (CEST)
xmp Rating is about the resource, values and definition attempted to be made better congruent with xmp now. See http://www.adobe.com/devnet/xmp/pdfs/XMPSpecificationPart1.pdf Table 5. Gregor Hagedorn 12:38, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
Closing this as Gregor's 29 August edit addresses the reviewer's and Annette's comments. Note to self: review if XMP citation is to correct volume --BobMorris 00:05, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"If we have this field, should we not also have a field that provides a description of the rating system? --AnnetteOlson 00:11, 4 February 2010 (CET)
Name:Commenter
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mrtg:commenter [2]
  Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
Definition: The name of a person, institution, etc. that provided a comment. Must display a name or the literal "anonymous" (= anonymous commenter).
Comments:Provider is asserting they accept the associated comments, but makes no claim as to competency of the Commenters.
ReviewComments:9. For Commenter/Comments/Reviewer/Reviewer Comments, there is much that is unclear. As before, are these comments on the metadata, the media resource or the combination of the two? Why is Commenter defined as meaning that the resource has comments? Surely the presence of the Comments makes that clear? Is it intended that there should be series of Commenter/Reviewer elements listing all parties who have commented or reviewed the resource? Are the comments expected just to be text literals? Given the cardinality of Commenter and Comments (and the review equivalents) there seems to be no way that individual comments can be associated with the commenter.
Response:* Comments and Reviewer Comments may refer to either the resource or the resource and its metadata. Separating these issues is considered to be confusing in practice. A commenter will have usually seen both and will have difficulty separating whether a comment refers to the media item irrespective of metadata, or in the light of metadata (e. g. a taxon identification or location asserted in the metadata). The wording of the MRTG definition and comments was clarified and examples given under comments. Gregor Hagedorn 20:55, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
  • Why is Commenter defined as meaning that the resource has comments? - True, fixed. Gregor Hagedorn 20:55, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
  • ‘Is it intended that there should be series of Commenter/Reviewer elements listing all parties who have commented or reviewed the resource?‘ -- Note sure, OPEN ISSUE Gregor Hagedorn 20:55, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
  • Association between Comment and responsible Agent may be possible in specific schemata based on this vocabulary profile. We are uncertain whether this should be solved in the vocabulary itself. Please also see Linking MRTG elements. Gregor Hagedorn 20:55, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
  • I agree with Gregor's first comment about it is difficult to separate comments on media or metadata, and it would be too confusing to institute separate fields for this. As for separate Comment v. Commentor fields - i.e., the names in one field and the comments in the other, I agree that it is difficult to associate the name with the comments. We originally had them separate in LIFE but recently put them back together in one, text field, of comments and names. When receiving annotations directly from outside sources, such as through a log-in and then a that user using a comment field, the user name is often recorded with the comments when inputted - so they are often in one field. In other words, I am proposing that we make Comments and Commentor one, text field called Comments, and the best practice is that the commentors name is recorded with each comment with date stamps if possible. (but basically it is all text-based). AnnetteOlson 20:46, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
  • For what it's worth, the newly formed Annotation interest group will strive to put forth sufficiently general notions of an Annotation, that all of these issues can be treated unambiguously in a highly structured way, extensible way. I really wonder if the topic is too complex for MRTG and whether we should not try to distinguish such things as peer review from other kinds of comments. After all, if I provide images and assert that my comments are expert, why is that different from when I assert that comments by Gregor are expert? The assertion "X is an expert" really has utility mainly by knowing who is asserting it, which has little to do with who is providing it. Consider especially the case where ReviewerComments come through in a record from an aggregator, and with little or no provenance available. What am I to make of that? Only that somebody made an assertion of expertise. --BobMorris 00:53, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Should this be part of the extended set, not core? (From spreadsheet) Yes. Now it is. --BobMorris 20:54, 2 February 2010 (CET)
  • There is a problem more general than associating a Commenter with their Comments if we allow repeatable Commenters. See Linking MRTG elements. --BobMorris 20:54, 2 February 2010 (CET)
    • We have the Reviewer Comments below, and the definition states for Commenter that the provider is NOT asserting Commenter has expertise, so I changed the Comments section for this item to read "makes no claim as to competency," and I took out the word "review," so as not to confuse it with the Reviewer Comments belowAnnetteOlson 00:11, 4 February 2010 (CET)"
  • Name:Comments
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:comments [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Any comment provided on the media resource, as free-form text.
    Comments:Comments may refer to the resource itself (e. g., asserting a taxon name or location of a biological subject in an image), or to the relation between resource and associated metadata (e. g., asserting that the taxon name given in metadata is false, without asserting a positive identification). There is a separate item for reviewer comments, which is defined more as an expert-level review.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "Issue of linked fields again. (Should this be part of the extended set, not core?)" (From spreadsheet)
    • there are 8 "comments" elements in DwC: SampleRemarks; SamplingEventRemarks; GeoreferenceRemarks; SamplingLocationRemarks; IdentificationRemarks; RelationshipRemarks; SampleAttributeRemarks; EventAttributeRemarks
    • also in NCD Header: http://www.w3.org/2001/vcard-rdf/3.0#Note
    • There is a problem more general than associating a Commenter with their Comments if we allow repeatable Commenters. Please see Linking MRTG elements. --BobMorris 20:54, 2 February 2010 (CET)
    Name:Reviewer
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:reviewer [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: If present, then resource is peer-reviewed, even if Reviewers Comments are lacking. The notation of whether an expert in the subject featured in the media has reviewed the media item or collection and approved its metadata description. Must display a name or the literal "anonymous" (= anonymously reviewed).
    Comments:Provider is asserting they accept this review as competent.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Should this be part of the extended set, not core? (From spreadsheet)
    • Bob will comment later on the issue of linking reviewer comments with reviewer name.
      • Why do we have just "Commenter" above, but "Reviewer Name" here - do we need the name as part of this item's official name?AnnetteOlson 00:11, 4 February 2010 (CET) -- Fixed.
    Name:Reviewer Comments
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:reviewerComments [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Any comment provided by a reviewer with expertise in the subject, as free-form text.
    Comments:Reviewer Comments may refer to the resource itself (e. g., asserting a taxon name or location of a biological subject in an image), or to the relation between resource and associated metadata (e. g., asserting that the taxon name given in metadata is false, without asserting a positive identification). There is a separate item ΄Comments‘ for text from commenters of unrecorded expertise.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "Issue of linked fields again. (Should this be part of the extended set, not core?)" (From spreadsheet)
    • Bob will comment later on the issue of linking reviewer comments with reviewer name.
    Name:Modified
    Normative URI: dcterms:modified [1]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Date that the media resource was altered. The date and time must comply with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) datetime practice, which requires that date and time representation correspond to ISO 8601:1998, but with year fields always comprising 4 digits. This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004. AC datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/'). See also the wikipedia IS0 8601 entry for further explanation and examples.
    Comments:dcterms:modified [1] permits all modification dates to be recorded, or if only one is recorded, it is assumed to be the latest.
    ReviewComments:10. I think the items should be reordered to make grouping more logical – why is Modified not before/after Metadata Modified?
    Response:* Should Metadata Modified be moved here? I propose Bob decides. --Gregor.
    • Bob can decide, but I am for it moving here - otherwise people (versus machines) will continue to be confused.AnnetteOlson 21:05, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • I presume the reference is now to xmp:MetadataDate (There is no longer any MetadataModified, as it means the same thing as xmp:MetadataDate). Rather than move it now in response to this reviewer comment, I propose that at TDWG Annette and I reconsider the order and categories of the terms. The original categories may not be appropriate. Among other things, we have a few terms that are about metadata, not about the resource, and perhaps it is better to put them in their own category to reduce confusion. I will leave this issue open pending response. --BobMorris 00:32, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* DwC uses DublinCore term "Modified"
  • I doubt that this can always comply to both standards at the same time -- W3C datetime (e. g., xs:date, xs:dateTime) and IS0 8601. For example, xs:date or dateTime used by XML Schemas do not allow date ranges like 2009-01-01/2009-12-01. At the same time, when looking at definition of dcterms:modified, I did not notice any restrictions to format in their schemas. This raises a question if using dcterms:modified with a claim that it should confirm to ISO is allowed, unless it's only a recommendation.--AlexeyZinovjev 21:12, 11 December 2009 (CET)
  • Name:Date Available
    Normative URI: dcterms:available [1]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The date (often a range) that the resource became or will become available. The date and time must comply with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) datetime practice, which requires that date and time representation correspond to ISO 8601:1998, but with year fields always comprising 4 digits. This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004. AC datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/'). See also the wikipedia IS0 8601 entry for further explanation and examples.
    Comments:A use case is, for example, that metadata, potentially including occurrence records, are published before even before the media are available, which are pending a formal publication elsewhere.
    ReviewComments:11.Can you give some use case for Date Available? Is this to support media embargoes?
    Response:Yes, it supports media embargoes. It allows publication of metadata even before the media are available. For example, an occurrence record could be asserted even if the image is not served.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Even following DublinCore I would not change this to "available". The risk of misunderstanding is very high. --GregorHagedorn 17:18, 22 February 2009 (CET)
    • We are following W3C-DTF - http://www.w3c.org/TR/NOTE-datetime, which apparently includes date ranges.--AnnetteOlson 22:41, 6 March 2009 (CET)
      • I find it ambiguous whether it includes ranges---probably it does. Anyway, I have added a template invoked by {{MRTGdatetime}} intended to be in every term requiring a datetime. It attempts to disambiguate the range issue by refering to ISO 8601:2004, which explicitly includes ranges. Discussion and improvement of the issue should take place in the Template:MRTGdatetime --BobMorris 17:35, 29 March 2009 (CEST)
    • There is a semantic issue here: a resource may be available and later be made unavailable, but the metadata could usefully remain available, e. g. for occurrence evidence. As defined, that case is not covered. Is it important? --BobMorris 23:35, 13 March 2009 (CET)
      • I agree with this field referring to the resource, not the metadata…, so for this should be good. I do not think it is important to note when metadata is available unless the metadata is copyrighted, which is very rare in our community. If someone seeks info on date available for metadata, we can add it to the next version?…AnnetteOlson 00:11, 4 February 2010 (CET).
    Name:Accrual Policy
    Normative URI: dcterms:accrualPolicy [1]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A policy governing addition of items to a collection. Examples are planned deliverables and estimate for future changes.
    Comments:Although an important management item, the relevance of this to consumers of metadata is limited to specific cases; e. g., where the Accrual Policy specifies that data are available only for a limited period.
    ReviewComments:12. Are there any expectations about the form of an Accrual Policy? Is this a URI or a block of text, or just whatever human-readable value makes sense?
    Response:* There is a problem here. dcterms:accrualPolicy is a property whose value is an object of class dcterms:Policy. It also takes a dcterms:Collection as subject. I don't think our intent is anything this complex. I think we want a plain text value, and so have to put it in our namespace. --BobMorris 18:28, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Not sure we should not follow Dublin core. dcterms:Policy is simply a subclass of Resource. I believe this means, we just have to specify that the value of accrualPolicy is a URI, correct? Which would answer the reviewer’s question. Gregor Hagedorn 20:55, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
    • A URI? This is how DC terms defines it by association with Policy which is associated with Resource? I"m afraid we didn't get that deep when we (LIFE) decided to use this term - we are managing this as a plain text field. We do apply it to Collection as subject. I'm not sure how widely AccuralPolicy is currently used in bioinformatics, though it is widely in the library field.AnnetteOlson 21:17, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Ummm, what if we drop it altogether? If not, we should just put it in mrtg namespace, declare it to be plain text, give NBII's values as examples, and point to dcterms:accrualPolicy as a more detailed usage that we are not following. Keep in mind that this normative document (and, I hope, any RDF implementation ) implicitly subscribes to the Open World assumption---although maybe we need to take an explicit position on that. An XML-Schema implementation probably will entail that terms outside the schema cannot be referenced and still maintain validity, but other implementations might not. In open world implementations, a producing app could actually add dc:accrualPolicy if it wishes, and a consuming app can do what it wishes. --BobMorris 00:32, 11 September 2010 (CEST)


    4 Attribution Vocabulary

    Name:
    Normative URI: xmpRights:Owner[4]
      Layer: Core — Required: Yes — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The name of the owner of the copyright. 'Unknown' is an acceptable value.
    Comments:ALA uses dcterms:publisher [1] for this purpose, but it seems doubtful that the publisher is by necessity the copyright owner. Copyright owner cannot be repeated (only a single owner is possible).
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"See MRTG Copyright Owner Discussion
    Name:
    Normative URI: dcterms:rights [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: Yes — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Information about rights held in and over the resource. A full-text, readable copyright statement, as required by the national legislation of the copyright holder. On collections, this applies to all contained objects, unless the object itself has a different statement. Examples: �-Y΄Copyright XY 2008, all rights reserved‘, ΄© 2008 XY Museum�-Y¡ , "Public Domain." Do not place just the name of the copyright holder here!
    Comments:This expresses rights over the media resource, not over the metadata text.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Dublin core "rights" is potentially more general, but we follow the more specific use of IPTC CORE 1.1, i.e. focussing on copyright here. --GregorHagedorn 07:48, 4 May 2009 (CEST)
    • One of the problems is multiple languages. Plain text, but make recommended guidelines for originating nation. Responsibility of metadata provider to get that right. IF this information is not available, a mechanism should be provided to state that this. (not that it is empty for other reasons)" (From spreadsheet) -- I can't really parse this comment so I don't know how opine what is needed in the proposed item. --BobMorris 18:58, 7 February 2009 (CET)
    • For resources in the public domain, would a statement such as "public domain" be used to populate this element? There would be some value to having at least one element in the schema having a controlled vocabulary that would include "public domain" as a value so that users could search for copyright-free resources. Maybe a controlled vocabulary is excessive; rather one could simply state that this element should be give the value "public domain" if the resource is not subject to copyright.

    --Steve Baskauf 21:30, 28 April 2009 (CEST)

      • I would agree with Steve - it is common practice to put public domain in this field if a resource is not copyrighted. NBII definitely puts in public domain here, and with us moving to GBIF and others a large number of federal, public domain resources, I think it is important to allow this. I would recommend revising the Definition above to indicate that option. I did go ahead and add it is an example AnnetteOlson 00:32, 4 February 2010 (CET)
    Name:License Statement
    Normative URI: xmpRights:UsageTerms[4]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The license statement defining how resources may be used. Information on a collection applies to all contained objects unless the object has a different statement.
    Comments:Example: "Available under Creative Commons by-nc-sa 2.5 license". This also informs on the commercial availability of items. Buying an identification tool or media resource is essentially the purchase of an individual license. Examples for such License statements: ´Available through bookstores¡ for a commercially published CD, in License; ´Individual licenses available for purchase¡ for a high-resolution image (note that the medium or low resolution levels of the same image may be available under Creative Commons!)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Gregor wants this mandatory with default value something like 'Consult copyright owner'. I find that superfluous and favor at most a best practice statement, or just remain silent on the point. Gregor argues that license is key to determining fitness for use, but I think that is true only when the use involves copy. Simply examining the object requires no license, nor, in some jurisdictions copying it for internal use without republishing. In addition, fitness for use of the underlying object is irrelevant to some uses of the metadata itself, e. g. as evidence of species occurrence, biological relationships, etc.--BobMorris 01:12, 30 March 2009 (CEST)
      • For many purposes such as creating species pages or identification keys, a permission is required. Embedding an image or deep linking to a video or sound stored on a different server is still considered a copyright violation in many countries. Linking to a portal where the user can find the image or sound (Bob's scenario) is not a violation, but also not very acceptable to the user. — Key to Nature would welcome incentive or additional motivation to point publishers to consider their position on a license but this could also be in instructions. It is also unfortunate, but probably on purpose, that the xmp term (UsageTerms) will point most publishers into another direction than "License Statement" --GregorHagedorn 07:48, 4 May 2009 (CEST)
      • This should not be mandatory, as it would not apply/is unnecessary for any public domain resources, which are the majority of ours media resources; we (NBII) do require it for copyrighted images but that is only because our policy is to serve only images under a Creative Commons license or similar defined usage; Other image galleries also have a history of recording Copyright info, but not License Statement, so requiring this field would need the creation of additional metadata. Finally, I would argue that linking to a portal where the user can find the image or sound is a very acceptable practice to many users, as it is the basis for users discovering our gallery, and thus permission to practice that does not need to be defined using License Statement. Strongly recommend this field, yes, require noAnnetteOlson 00:32, 4 February 2010 (CET)
    Name:License URL
    Normative URI: xmpRights:WebStatement[4]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A URL defining or further elaborating on the license statement (e. g., a web page explaining the precise terms of use).
    Comments:The value of this field may provide a complete definition of the terms of use. For Creative Commons, the appropriate value is the URL of the defining Web page for the license. Example: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/. Where different quality variants (e. g. resolutions of images) are published under different licenses, the MRTG term ´Licensing Exception Statement¡ supports variant-specific licenses.
    ReviewComments:13. How should a provider handle the situation where a CC license applies to low-resolution versions and some other license to high-resolution versions? Incidentally this opens up the question of whether metadata relates to some platonic ideal of the image or to particular size/format representations.
    Response:The use case mentioned by the reviewer is handled by the ´Licensing Exception Statement¡ property of the service access points. Different access points, including different resolutions can have different licenses. Now annotated in comments. Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I would add that if different versions of an image are going to be treated differently, then they should be treated as different resources with different ids - and thus different licenses associated with each id, instead of all refering to one resource id. But Gregor's response should answer this comment.AnnetteOlson 21:17, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • I favor Gregor's solution over Annette's because I believe that different jurisdictions and individuals may treat them differently or treat them as one work. To whatever extent that may be true, any position of MRTG on the matter would be irrelevant and/or prevent an expression of a locally, legally correct, usage. Pending any further debate, I am closing this issue. --BobMorris 01:09, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:License Logo URL
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:licenseLogoURL [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A URL providing access to a logo that symbolizes the License.
    Comments:The legal responsibility for choosing a correct graphical representation must lie with the provider of metadata and can not be assumed by a service that offers a search or reporting user-interface. Example: 88x31.png
    Name:Attribution Statement
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CreditLine [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: free text for "please cite this as…"
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* I find the citation to photo: no more compelling than the IPTC "Generic Specification" 'Credit Line, which could be given the IPTC namespace without having to introduce the "Photoshop Implementation" citation. --BobMorris 03:15, 30 March 2009 (CEST) . I have changed the URI by fiat --BobMorris 18:55, 29 January 2010 (CET)
    Name:Attribution Logo URL
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    mrtg:attributionLogoURL [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The URL of icon or logo image to appear in source attribution.
    Comments:Entering this URL into a browser should only result in the icon (not in a webpage including the icon).
    ReviewComments:14. Should there be more guidance on what is appropriate for an Attribution Logo URL – e. g. on the size of the image returned? My opinion is no. I think there should be best-practices established.
    Response:Among other things, the server may wish to have a policy as may clients. If somebody's client/server architecture can accomplish this, so much the better. MRTG should not intervene in matters like this. --BobMorris 18:55, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"The item name "Object Logo URL" and definition seem to be in contradiction. Either it is a logo of the resource (e. g. a logo for an institution or movie, or an attribution logo (e. g., for an image the owners or providers logo). I therefore propose to change the item name to "Attribution Logo URL". --GregorHagedorn 11:30, 29 March 2009 (CEST)
    Name:
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
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    Audubon Core Non normative document
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    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
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    mrtg:attributionLinkURL [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The URL where information about ownership, attribution, etc. of the resource may be found.
    Comments:This URL may be used in creating a clickable logo. Providers should consider making this link as specific and useful to consumers as possible, e. g., linking to a metadata page of the specific image resource rather than to a generic page describing the owner or provider of a resource.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"The term "Object Link URL" should be renamed - the definition and comment imply that it is tied to attribution. The desire to link this to specific metadata may be expressed in comments. --GregorHagedorn 11:30, 29 March 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Published Source
    Normative URI: dcterms:source [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: An identifiable source from which the described resources was derived. It may be digital, but in any case should be a source for which the originator intended long-term availability.
    Comments:If image, key, etc. was taken from (i.e. digitized) or was also published in a digital or printed publication. Do not put generally "related" publications in here. This field normally contains a free-form text description; it may be a URI: (´digitally-published://ISBN=961-90008-7-0¡) if this resource is also described separately in the data exchange. Can be repeatable if a montage of images.
    ReviewComments:15. Why ´Published Source¡ rather than ´Source¡?
    Response:In the "Discussion" data for this wiki table there was a lot of discussion on this point. The review was to be of what we would publish as the normative document, so I suppressed the public discussion in this rendering. Will it help to turn it back on? Just for specific items? --BobMorris 21:03, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I would be grateful for reviewer’s recommendation on actions after we have passed them the discussion above. We could have own vocabulary term or strictly follow dcterms, with some commentary on best practice in our view, with uses to differentiate from derivedFrom. Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Gregor: I don't understand what you are asking for here. --BobMorris 01:09, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    • In meeting of 17Feb2010, Gregor clarified that by the above he meant to get some advice from the reviewer on better terminology. In unrendered Comments, Steve Baskauf argues that in the case of a specimen image, the dc:source could be a GUID for the specimen. In general, I think we need to put down a variety of cases-- specimens, picture of a published work (e.g. BHL images, image of botanical sketches, of fine art, etc.), Then we can perhaps find the right term. For discussion at TDWG?
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"Think important for copyrighted works, but question of definition of "published" includes when Flickr and YouTube. But needs to be a stable, long-term preserved resource. Will not change and disappear. Libraries best practice document says "Use [Source] only when the described resource is the result of digitization of non-digital originals. Otherwise, use Relation." Possible use of Relation field is "IsAVersionOf"
    • The IPTC Core Source field differs from what is considered DC source, which is "A related resource from which the described resource is derived." We use a similar definition - The related, non-digital resource from which the described resource is derived, but I think we all agreed that non-digital is not critical here, and should include both digital and printed publications. But I agree with point above that if digital needs to be a long-term stable resource, that is an official "publication, otherwise use Relation field." --AnnetteOlson 22:53, 6 March 2009 (CET)
    • I think that it is a mistake to give the name "Published Source" to the Dublin Core element "Source". As noted above, DC element "Source" references the resource from which the focal resource (e. g. an image resource) is derived. In many (perhaps the majority) of cases of images in a biodiversity context, the image will be of a physical resource such as a museum specimen, an herbarium specimen, or an individual live organism in its environment. All of these resources can and should be assigned LSIDs which would be the appropriate resource to reference in this element. If the focal resource (e. g. an image) were at some point were published, the image as seen in the publication would be derived from the focal resource, not the other way round as it seems to be intended here. I think that this somewhat "backward" way of conceptualizing Source results from the assumption that many images included in databases that may use the MRTG schema will be gleaned from resources on the web. That may be true initially, but eventually many (if not most) images that will be valuable in a biodiversity context will be created by people who are imaging collections or photographing live organisms. The Source element needs to be understood in its correct DC context and instances where an image is found elsewhere as a part of another media resource should be noted using one of the other terms mentioned in this discussion. I understand that an image digitized from something like a journal article or key would in a philosophical sense be derived from the article or key itself, but if one contacted the author to obtain the image directly (a desirable outcome because the quality would be better than a scan) would you say that the image came from the article? I think most people would say that it was the other way round. --Steve Baskauf 05:57, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
      • I think I am on Steve's side on some of this. I also have some concern that the commentary in the spec for dcterms:source [1] suggest that it will ultimately change taking a class range and become more complex than we desire here. There is a further problem, in that the dc spec recommends as best practice the use of a URI. We seem to discourage that in our Comments, and also seem to impose the further requirement that if a URI is provided, it must identify something that is also described in the same metadata document. --BobMorris 06:55, 1 May 2009 (CEST)
      • I don't think I agree with all of Steve's arguments, only his conclusion. In particular, whatever the outcome, it must not depend on there being only one object depicted in the medium, nor must it assume that it is an organism, nor that if part of an organism that the taxon is relevant. For example a single picture might have some twigs from several species in it to represent an illustration of "stipule". --BobMorris 06:55, 1 May 2009 (CEST)
    • TO Do : The dcterms:source definition is at variance from our Comments here in several ways:
    1. It recommends that a formal identifier be used where possible. It is silent about free form
    2. It does not require that the source have "previously described in the data exchange"

    I have proposed a Definition. --BobMorris 16:47, 4 April 2009 (CEST)

    • Steve's arguments are certainly worth considering. I wonder however, whether some sources, like publication and specimen, don't merit special, inheritable information. Essentially, if source IS a publication, resulting in image A and this has been modified by image processing to create image B, source of image B would only inform about image A, but no longer about the publication. Even worse, if the same thing happens with a specimen, tracing the fact that image B is an image of a specimen would require access to the metadata on the "source", i.e. image A. Essentially, splitting "published source" and "Associated Specimen Reference" from "Derived From" is meant to handle this: direct source in a chain of digital modification in "Derived From", ultimate sources in "Published Source" and "Associated Specimen Reference". However, Steve is certainly right in asking to consider the future, where little is "scanned" from publications. So if generalizing: Which source information should be inherited down a derivation chain and which not? --GregorHagedorn 00:17, 11 May 2009 (CEST)
      • I think this is generically a problem of record provenance, but it is clouded by the case of images of specimens that are vouchers for some kind of scientific inferences which are meant to be supported by the specimen. Part of the problem may also arise from the controversial nature of "electronic vouchers", such as pictures. Some use cases of an image in a chain of modifications might require easy access to the ultimate (i.e. "original") image of the specimen. Others might require knowledge of the actual manipulations (e. g. by retrieving the elements of the derivation chain). To the extent that one may consider an original publication as a voucher for a scientific inference ("This paper is evidence that species A is different from species B"), I think that the problem is more general than Steve's remarks might lead one to conclude. Images are often the only voucher for observations. Even for traditional voucher specimens, I have heard it proposed that imaging live, or otherwise unprocessed specimens before preserving them should be adopted. Hence, it seems to me that this is not a problem that will go away in the future. Quite the contrary, it will become more important as the preponderance increases of scientific inferences being drawn from images of biota. OK, OK, I don't know where I stand on the issue for the schema. I just think we have to get it right. Does this need to be on a new page with summary and link here? --BobMorris 07:21, 11 May 2009 (CEST)
    • There is an rdfs semantic issue having nothing to do with the above. It is that dcterms:source is defined to have "non-literal value" as defined by the DCMI Abstract Model. These are defined to be "physical, digital or conceptual" objects, whereas "literal" values are
    "A literal is an entity which uses a Unicode string as a lexical form, together with an optional language tag or datatype, to denote a resource (i.e. "literal" as defined by [RDF])."

    I cannot see what a non-literal value should be in RDF for dcterms:source, and if in RDFS this is a Class property, what class should be its range.

    --BobMorris 20:18, 7 September 2009 (CEST)

    • I have returned to this issue again because of my need to consider the simultaneous databasing of media resources with physical resources. At SERNEC we want to have a database that contains records for physical individual organisms in the wild, physical preservedSpecimens, direct digital images of the individual organisms, and digital images of the specimens. Metadata for the latter three categories of resources can be placed as records in a single database using Darwin Core terms to describe the biodiversity aspects of all the resources and MRTG terms to describe the media aspects of the two categories of images. However, to keep this straight, we need to be able to have a field that indicates an identifier for the resource from which the subject resource was derived. For example, we need to say that a specimen was derived from a certain individual, a live plant image was derived from a certain individual, and that a specimen image was derived from a certain specimen. Under Dublin Core, the appropriate element to describe this relationship would seem to be dcterms:source "A related resource from which the described resource is derived." Arguments given above have supported and opposed the use of dcterms:source in this way for images. However, what occurs to me now is that if dcterms:source is specifically adopted by MRTG to mean a "Published Source" rather than source in a "derivation chain" sense as I would like to use it in our circumstances, it is setting up a conflict for users like me similar to what we just finished going through with dcterms:type. I really can't use dcterms:source to indicate that an individual in the wild was the source of a physical specimen if that term is then going to have a different interpretation for the images that also inhabit the same database (i.e. I can't say that the specimen was the dcterms:source of the digital image of the specimen because MRTG says that dcterms:source means a published source for the digital image).

    After looking at the DC terms again, it seems like there may be other DCMI terms that have meanings closer to "Published Source" than dcterms:source. For example, dcterms:isPartOf is defined as "A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included." That seems to me to be closer to the situation where an image was originally part of a digital or print publication than "from which the described resource is derived" (i.e. dcterms:source).

    dcterms:isPartOf suffers from the same problem as dcterms:source in that its DCMI definition also states that it should "be used with non-literal values". I may be misunderstanding this since I'm a novice, but it seems like the intention here is that both of these terms should be used with a unique identifier, ISBN, etc. rather than a literal. That could certainly be the case in the SERNEC situation where the value for dcterms:source would be the globally unique identifier for the specimen or individual, and in the use for a Published Source where the value of dcterms:isPartOf might be something like an ISBN.

    Anyway, my point is that the use of dcterms:source as it is described here could prevent someone from using dcterms:source in other circumstances where it is probably the most appropriate term to apply.

    Steve Baskauf 04:33, 28 October 2009 (CET)


    5 Agents Vocabulary

    Name:Creator
    Normative URI: dcterms:creator [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The person or organization responsible for creating the media resource
    Comments:* The value may be simple text or a nested object representing the details of a CI_ResponsibleParty text including contact information.
    • Note that the Creator need not be the Copyright Owner
    ReviewComments:16. �-Y΄The value may be simple text or a nested object representing the details of a CI_ResponsibleParty‘ – define CI_ResponsibleParty – I think the asterisk and the bullet in this block of text should probably be made consistent.
    Response:CI_ResponsibleParty is something in the crosswalk field and so(?) doesn't inherently require definition. However, here it deserves at least a citation. I have no idea what it is. --BobMorris 21:03, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
  • I have no idea what the CI_ResponsibleParty is, for LIFE we use it as the person to contact for permission to use the image, such as for commercial purposes. But I would just change the Definition, adding in - as noted in the Crosswalk. Btw, this Comment (#16) and its responses really belong under the Creator term, not this term, but I didn't want to mess it up by moving it myself.AnnetteOlson 23:10, 2 September 2010 (CEST) I moved it back where it belongs. --BobMorris 04:33, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
  • CI_ResponsibleParty seems to denote "Contact Information of Responsible Party". The "CI_" seems to be applied to a lot of stuff in standards that are from geospatial standards promulgated by OGC and ISO. I can't find them used in dcterms, and I propose we simplify to the text Comments I've given, after removing the struck out text. I have also removed reference to CI_ResponsibleParty that was in the Crosswalk. If agreed I will implement. Agreement by email is fine. For now, I consider the issue closed --BobMorris 04:33, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
  • Name:Provider
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:provider [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Person or organization responsible for presenting the media resource. If no separate Metadata Provider is attributed, this attributes also the metadata.
    Comments:Media items and Metadata may be served from different institutions, e. g. in the case of aggregators adding user annotations, taxon identifications, or ratings.
    ReviewComments:17. Is the definition of Provider correct? If so, it seems to mean the same as MetadataProvider. Otherwise, shouldn’t it be the person or organisation responsible for presenting the media resource or collection rather than the record?
    Response:Yes, and in public discussion we agreed to eliminate this. If there is no further objection, I will do so. --BobMorris 21:03, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Media items and Metadata may be served from different institutions, e. g. in the case of aggregators adding user annotations, taxon identifications, or ratings. Therefore an attempt is being made to allow a separate attribution of providers. I tried to correct the def. and comment under this perspective. Please check whether correct. Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I agree with Gregor on purpose, and wording seems okay. AnnetteOlson 21:17, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Me too. Reversing my position and closing this issue. --BobMorris 01:19, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* For DwC, InstitutionCode is closest match
  • NCD "Author of metadata" uses dcterms:creator [1] (but creator is not provider)
  • Either this is the same as Metadata Provider or it isn't. If it is, let's dump it. The crosswalks confuse me.--BobMorris 05:49, 4 April 2009 (CEST)
  • Name:Metadata Provider
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:metadataProvider [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Person or organization originally responsible for compiling and presenting providing the resource metadata record.
    Comments:Media items and Metadata may be served from different institutions, e. g. in the case of aggregators adding user annotations, taxon identifications, or ratings. Compare Provider.
    ReviewComments:none
    Response:* I have simplified the Definition to distinguish it from the (reinstated) Metadata Creator. Arguably now Metadata Provider is less important. --BobMorris 04:18, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* First, how does the definition of Metadata Provider differ from the item above - Provider? Currently the same. Provider is more the metadata plus the resource. Metadata provider is just the metadata provider, but I think it isn't that useful here. Provider covers it. I agree in part with action note below about creator, though NBII only has Metadata Contributor, not Metadata Provider or Creator. Contributor is vague and can cover both provider who compiles metadata and a creator, multiple people can be Metadata contributors. However, we are going to set up a system where the metadata can be copyrighted also. we just haven't worked out the details. --AnnetteOlson 23:04, 6 March 2009 (CET)
    • I agree, this is not useful. In K2N we have dropped the idea of "Provider" and use "Service Provider" and "Metadata Creator" (which usually will be an institution. I have further up annotated further up that Metadata Creator has no longer a place. Do we consider this not useful? --GregorHagedorn 11:45, 29 March 2009 (CEST)

    Action Note: when restructuring into an "Agent" schema in Copenhagen 2009, the metadata creator seems to have been dropped. This role is different from the Metdata Provider, which provides a service (e. g. database access) but does not necessarily claim a copyright on descriptions or abstracts. To our legal requirements, the role of a metadata creator is important. IIM, photoshop and XMP recognize an equivalent agent in the metadata item in IPTC CORE 1.1: Description Writer, using the term photoshop:CaptionWriter [6] (modified --GregorHagedorn 09:42, 9 September 2009 (CEST))

    • Gregor - you keep forgetting to sign your name! --AnnetteOlson 23:04, 6 March 2009 (CET) (I apologize - you are right! --GregorHagedorn 09:42, 9 September 2009 (CEST))
    • NCD "Author of metadata" uses dcterms:creator [1]
    • I agree with introducing Metadata Creator. I think there is still some value to Metada Provider as a separate field - but metadata Creator is the more accurate and needed in terms of copyright possibilities. (fyi, LIFE considers the "Contributing Partner" (= MRTG:Provider) as the metadata provider also, but we do have a role called Metadata Contributor, which we meant to be the equivalent of Metadata Creator; we may rename that) AnnetteOlson 20:45, 16 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Metadata Creator
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:metadataCreator [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Person or organization originally creating the resource metadata record.
    ReviewComments:none
    Response:new term --BobMorris 04:18, 18 September 2010 (CEST)


    6 Content Coverage Vocabulary

    Name:Description
    Normative URI: dcterms:description [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Description of collection or individual resource, containing the Who, What, When, Where and Why as free-form text. This normative document is silent on the nature of formatting in the text. It is the role of implementers of a MRTG concrete representation (e.g. an XML Schema, an RDF representation, etc.) to decide and document how formatting advice will be represented in Descriptions serialized according to such representations.
    Comments:It optionally allows to present detailed information and will in most cases be shown together with the resource title. If both description and caption (see below) are present, a description is typically displayed instead of the resource, a caption together with the resource. Should be a good proxy for the underlying media resource.
    ReviewComments:18. Description – do we need any guidance on line breaks?
    Response:* Note that Description takes its URI from DC. Perhaps we should be more emphatic that it's our intent when we use someone else's namespace, unless otherwise mentioned, the documentation for that term should be applicable. dcterms:description is silent on line breaks hence so should we be. --BobMorris 19:11, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Not sure. I think it is reasonable to give best practices guidance and example about formatting. I would propose to say:
      • The standard is agnostic with respect to the line break character (Windows, Unix, Mac). In general it is best practice to ignore simple line breaks and treat them simply as whitespace.
      • To insert formatting, it is best practice to use simple html commands (<i></i>, <b></b>, <br/>, etc.). In xml transfer this is preferably transmitted in encoded form, i. e. as &lt;i&gt; to avoid creating mixed element content inside the description element.

    Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)

    • We should be careful about putting too many best practices here. Only when we differ from the namespace, and only when paramount for interoperability should be get into best practices within the standard itself (I feel). We should state instead that there should be a best practices document separate from this standard for over all TDWG terms. (or we can do one for MRTG specifically - LIFE has a good start with a 30 page document....)AnnetteOlson 23:07, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • I think a bigger issue is whether we will or won't impose requirements on implementers. Doing so might be an imposition and might force conflicts with some decisions implementers make for compatability with something else. As I have often argued with Gregor, I am not a fan of putting rendering formats in data. They can make it impossible to actually render in cases where the rendering client is unable or unwilling to do something with the format. In my opinion, formatting is no business of MRTG normative standard, and we should either remain silent---as dcterms does---or warn against it. I prefer remaining silent and let providers bear the brunt of doing something that turns out to be client specific. If we make a separate advice to implementers, it should warn that they should remind users that formatting in client-independent ways is tricky. --BobMorris 16:42, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    • In the meeting of 17Sep2010, I think I prevailed in the position I took above. I've clarified it in the Definition but am open to further discussion or editing of the Definition. --BobMorris 03:47, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"should the description have a relation has languages?
    Name:Caption
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:caption [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: As alternative or in addition to description, a caption is free-form text to be displayed together with (rather than instead of) a resource that is suitable for captions (especially images).
    Comments:Often only one of description or caption is present; choose the concept most appropriate for your metadata.
    Name:Language
    Normative URI: dcterms:language [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Language(s) of resource itself represented in ISO639-1 or -3
    Comments:An image may contain language such as superimposed labels. If an image is of a natural scene or organism, without any language included, the resource is language-neutral (ISO code �-Y΄zxx‘). Resources with present but unknown language are to be coded as undetermined (ISO code ΄und‘). Resources only containing scientific organism names should be coded as "zxx-x-taxon" (do not use the incorrect ΄la‘ for Latin). If there is no language code available, you must use the ISO extension mechanisms (x-XXX or XXXXXXX, CITE).
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* A part match is ncd:descriptionForSpecialists[7] which has attribute for language of the text

    7 Geography Vocabulary

    7.1 Introduction

    Location created and Location shown are separated in the current version of IPTC, and the metadata working group (MWG 2008) also recommends this. We will follow this, to support the expected future increase of automatic GPS based coordinate recording in recording devices. As a special case, the MRTG group recommends to change the semantics of location shown in the case of biodiversity specimens, where the original location may differ from the current location at which the specimen is held in a collection. In this case, LocationShown should exclusively refer to the location where a specimen was originally collected (gathering or sampling location). Use LocationCreated to express the location where the media was created (a specimen was digitized).

    ReviewComment 19: 1.΄where the original location differs from the current location at which the specimen is collected‘ should I assume be ΄where the original location may differ from the current location at which the specimen is held in a collection‘
    Response: I have adjusted wording in the Introduction per the suggestion. --BobMorris 22:09, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Location Shown
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/LocationShown [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The location that is shown or the place of the media content, irrespective of the location from which the resource has been created.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* The closest in NCD is "Place Name Coverage" ncd:geospatialCoverage[7]
    • I don't really understand with what this element and the following one will be poplulated?? Is it some kind of identifier? A value made by concatenating other terms?

    I have a somewhat philosophical problem with these two terms because I believe that in the circumstance where a physical object is digitized, there really should be two separate records with their own identifiers for the physical object and its digital representation. For example, if there is a 35 mm slide of a habitat which is then digitized, the location given in the 35 mm slide record should be the "location shown", and the location given in the digital image record should be the "location created". In this circumstance, there isn't really a need to have two different terms, rather one term "location" (i.e. the location where the thing was created) works for both. This is assuming that there is a machine-readable mechanism to indicate that the digital image was derived from the 35 mm slide so that the digital image consumer can discover the location shown through resolving the metadata from the 35 mm slide that from which the digital image was derived. Likewise, if an herbarium is imaging its specimens, the location in the specimen record would be the "location shown" and the location in the digital image record would be the "location created". Again a means would be required for connecting the record for the digital image to the record for the physical specimen in order for the location shown to be discovered.

    There is a similar problem with "Date and Time Digitized" and "Original Time and Date" about which I've already commented. These two issues are really the same and whatever the solution is to one of them is the solution to the other.

    I realize that many users will not care about this distinction and will just want to have a record for the digital object and use the two fields that you define. But what I'm still trying to figure out is how users such as the herbaria that are digitizing specimens will use these elements if they have two separate records (one for the image and one for the specimen). Steve Baskauf 13:46, 31 October 2009 (CET)

    There are scenarios where both LocationShown and LocationCreated are important, e. g. a remote sensing image. For most biodiversity media, the LocationShown is likely the more important if the metadata author feels that the LocationCreated is irrelevant and should not be provided. However, in no case should consumers of MRTG metadata assume any particular value for missing metadata.

    BobMorris 11:46, 1 February 2010 (CET)
    Name:World Region
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/WorldRegion [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Name of a world region in some high level classification, such as names for continents, waterbodies, or island groups, whichever is most appropriate. The terms preferably are derived from a controlled vocabulary (to be defined).
    Comments:We believe it is important to follow the XMP and IPTC standard set for media metadata and implemented in media management software. The equivalent DarwinCore fields here forces primary metadata providers to classify world region terms into separate properties for ΄continent‘ ΄waterbody‘, ΄IslandGroup‘. By contract the Iptc4xmpExt vocabulary only specifies that a World Region is something at the top of a hierarchy of locations.
    ReviewComments:20. Clarify that World Region is meant to hold the name of the region rather than a category of region (which is one possible way to read what it says now).
    Response:* I have changed the wording, but the issue of what controlled vocabulary for categories remains. Should we be silent? Also, I cannot make sense of the Comments. Can someone edit into something clearer? --BobMorris 22:09, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I tried. Something got cut somewhen… Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • The wording presently clarifies it per the reviewer's request. Maybe the comment is now confusing. I found only one instance of a use of WorldRegion on the web, and it had only continent names. Let's have a skype about the Comment. --BobMorris 19:37, 11 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Attempted to clarify the Comments especially as to the difference with DwC. Also propose to strike out the remark about XMP. We should educate about that seperately. --BobMorris 03:34, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Country Code
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CountryCode [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The geographic location of the specific entity(ies) documented by the media item, expressed through a constrained vocabulary of countries using 2-letter ISO country code (e. g. "it, si").
    Comments:Accepted exceptions to be used instead of ISO codes are: "Global", "Marine", "Europe", ΄N-America‘, ΄C-America‘, ΄S-America‘, "Africa", ΄Asia‘, ΄Oceania‘, ATA = "Antarctica", XEU = "European Union", XAR = "Arctic", "ZZZ" = "Unknown country" (3 letter abbreviations from IPTC codes). This list may be extended as necessary.
    Name:Country Name
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CountryName [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: This field can be free text, but where possible, the use of http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CountryCode [5] is preferred.
    Name:Province or State
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/ProvinceState [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Optionally, the geographic unit immediately below the country level (individual states in federal countries, provinces, or other administrative units) in which the subject of the media resource (e. g., species, habitats, or events) were located (if such information is available in separate fields).
    Name:County or Subprovince
    Normative URI: dwc:county[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The Counties, subprovinces, or sub-administrative units in which the subjects of the media were located.
    Name:City or Place Name
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/City [5]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Optionally, the name of a city or place commonly found in gazetteers (such as a mountain or national park) in which the subjects (e. g., species, habitats, or events) were located.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* DwC "Locality" is closest match
    Name:Sublocation
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/Sublocation [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Free-form text location details of the location of the subjects, down to the village, forest, or geographic feature etc., below the city or other place name, especially information that could not be found in a gazetteer.
    Comments:We distinguish Locality in the sense of dwc (= a complete description of a locality, with the possible exception of country names etc., which can be separated into dwc:HigherGeography), and Sublocation in the sense of IPTC/XMP, i.e. the further details below a city or other place name, of a free-form text location within a fully hierarchically arranged grouping (earlier IPTC versions used ΄Location‘, but this has been renamed as of 2008).
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* dwc:Location? - no such term. I think dwc:Locality was meant.
    • I don't think that the description in the comments of the sense of Locality in dwc (at least as it stands now) is accurate. DwC:locality is defined as "Less specific geographic information can be provided in other geographic terms (higherGeography, continent, country, stateProvince, county, municipality, waterBody, island, islandGroup)", not a complete description of all levels in the hierarchy. Maybe I'm just not understanding the comments, but I think that the current dwc:locality is the same as what we are defining here as sublocation.
    Steve Baskauf 13:53, 31 October 2009 (CET)


    7.2 Secondary free-form text geography

    Name:Verbatim Higher Geography
    Normative URI: dwc:higherGeography[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Optionally, as free-form text and a complement to Locality, any information from continent etc. down to country, i.e. everything that is less specific than the content of the Locality field.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Not sure if ncd:geospatialCoverage[7] is right here: "Place names from which material in the collection originated".
    Name:Locality
    Normative URI: dwc:locality[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Actual geolocation of observation as free-form text. This may be either complete, or be all information except those present in Higher Geography.
    Comments:This is place to put a free form text description.


    7.3 Coordinates, elevation, etc.

    Name:Geo-coordinates
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimCoordinates[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Latitude and longitude of geographic coordinates. Both decimal representation (use "." as decimal point) or degree-minute-second (use " ' " for minutes and " " " for seconds) may be used. End the latitude with N or S, or prefix the value with "+" for northward and "-" for southward. End the longitude with the letters E or W, or prefix the value with "+" for eastward and "-" for westward. Use the comma (",") to separate latitude from longitude. If positive/negative values are being used instead of prefix letters, it is essential to place the latitude first; otherwise it is recommended. A geodetic datum (such as WGS84 used for GPS measurements) may optionally be added in parentheses at the end. Examples: "27°59'16"N, 86°56'40"E (WGS84)" or "+49.5000°,-123.5000°" (for decimal degrees and using positive/negative values).
    Comments:This may be derived from the GPS of camera, not location shown. Where the provider has the data separated, recommended best practice is to the separately provided Latitude and Longitude metadata items; this item is in support of metadata where the coordinates are not separated and the provider is unable to provide reliable separation.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "Recommendation to adopt OGC if TDWG does - but may need to accept other formats (and convert). Mapping."" (From spreadsheet)
    Name:Latitude
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimLatitude[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Latitude as separate value; compare Geo-coordinates for further information.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"*It would seem to me that it would make more sense to have the term named "Latitude" refer to the DwC element "DecimalLatitude" rather than VerbatimLatitude. Both the verbatim latitude and longitude (perhaps pulled directly from EXIF data) can be examined by a human user if desired through examination of the Geo-coordinates (= DwC VerbatumCoordinates) item. If a provider is going to go to the trouble to parse out the individual latitudes and longitudes (which many will!), they will undoubtedly convert them to the most machine-readable format (DecimalLatitude and DecimalLongitude) which can then be used without further conversion in GIS or Web (e. g. Google Maps) applications. Those two elements (DecimalLatitude and DecimalLongitude) are not at present found in this schema. --Steve Baskauf 06:31, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Decimal Latitude
    Normative URI: dwc:decimalLatitude[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Latitude as decimal separate value; Usage as defined at dwc:decimalLatitude[8].
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"*It would seem to me that it would make more sense to have the term named "Latitude" refer to the DwC element "DecimalLatitude" rather than VerbatimLatitude. Both the verbatim latitude and longitude (perhaps pulled directly from EXIF data) can be examined by a human user if desired through examination of the Geo-coordinates (= DwC VerbatumCoordinates) item. If a provider is going to go to the trouble to parse out the individual latitudes and longitudes (which many will!), they will undoubtedly convert them to the most machine-readable format (DecimalLatitude and DecimalLongitude) which can then be used without further conversion in GIS or Web (e. g. Google Maps) applications. Those two elements (DecimalLatitude and DecimalLongitude) are not at present found in this schema. --Steve Baskauf 06:31, 28 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Longitude
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimLongitude[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Longitude as separate value; compare Geo-coordinates for further information.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Again, I would suggest that DecimalLongitude would be far more valuable here than VerbatimLongitude for the same reasons I gave above.

    --Steve Baskauf 06:31, 28 April 2009 (CEST)

    • Agreed and added.
    Name:Decimal Longitude
    Normative URI: dwc:decimalLongitude[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Longitude as separate decimal value; compare Geo-coordinates for further information.
    ReviewComments:23. Isn’t it worth simply stating at least that Decimal Latitude and Decimal Longitude should contain decimal coordinate values? The Decimal Longitude definition is (incorrectly) a verbatim repetition of the Longitude definition.
    Response:Fixed as suggested. --BobMorris 22:53, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Needs crosswalks re-examined to see whether the other system's usage is decimal or verbatim
    Name:Coordinate Precision
    Normative URI: dwc:coordinatePrecision[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: An estimate of how precisely the locality was recorded, expressed as a distance, in meters, that corresponds to a radius around the lat-long coordinates.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Not sure, perhaps over-atomized? Description needs explanation how circular versus rectangular precision (the latter occurs if longitude/latitude have separate precision estimates) is to be expressed, and how to express the measurement unit. --GregorHagedorn 07:59, 23 February 2009 (CET)
    • I do not think that this is a correct representation of CoordinatePrecision, at least in the most recent DwC schema. What is described in the definition here is actually CoordinateUncertaintyInMeters. CoordinatePrecision is "A decimal representation of the precision of the coordinates given in the DecimalLatitude and DecimalLongitude" which I think is actually a more useful element than CoordinateUncertaintyInMeters, at least if we are planning for a future when most data will be collected by GPS enabled cameras. For most current GPS receivers, the value for CoordinatePrecision would be 0.00001 (decimal degrees) which could be automatically assigned by the provider given the source of the data (i.e. GPS). In cases where data providers are limiting public access to precise locality data by reducing the precision of the coordinates that are provided (see DwC Generalizations), they are most likely to do so by lopping off digits from their raw coordinates. Under that circumstance, providing a value for CoordinatePrecision would be much more straightforward than providing a value for CoordinateUncertaintyInMeters. Providers who are crunching "old" data (e. g. from museum specimen data) are going to have to do some kind of calculation or conversion anyway and they can just as easily give their precision in decimal degrees as meters.

    --Steve Baskauf 06:31, 28 April 2009 (CEST)

      • I agree. Need to update definition to follow DwC. --GregorHagedorn 00:17, 11 May 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Coordinate System
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimCoordinateSystem[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The official name of the spatial coordinate system used for recording the coordinates (Latitude, Longitude or Geo-coordinates) of the place shown in the media.
    Comments:Recommended values are those at http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Location#verbatimCoordinateSystem
    ReviewComments:24. For Verbatim Coordinate System, are there recommended vocabularies to use?
    Response:I believe that there are official names for different coordinate systems, so a controlled vocabulary could be generated. We have not done so yet at LIFE - its a backburner item.AnnetteOlson 23:07, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • DwC now takes a position on this, so I have referenced it in the Comments and am closing the issue. If anybody feels that the DwC values and comments should be copied here, please edit. --BobMorris 05:51, 12 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* I would make this an enumeration. --BobMorris 18:34, 8 February 2009 (CET)
  • I believe introducing this is over-atomized, making it too difficult for normal providers to participate. --GregorHagedorn 07:59, 23 February 2009 (CET)
    • There are many different styles of coordinates, this information commonly is selected in gazeteers. And it is optional of course.--AnnetteOlson 23:17, 6 March 2009 (CET)
  • Name:Depth
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimDepth[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The depth or range of depth at which the media was recorded. Quantitative expressions including measurement units are preferred.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "This field combined with depth could be altitude instead (positive elevation, negative depth ) " (From spreadsheet)
      • This may be correct for altitude/height, but not elevation. Elevation is correct for geolocation, altitude for observer or subject position. However, it seems at the moment there is no altitude or height above local surface (e. g. for shots from a tower) present in MRTG --GregorHagedorn 15:20, 18 June 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Elevation
    Normative URI: dwc:verbatimElevation[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The specific elevation or range of elevation at which the media was recorded, including units (elevation is defined as zero being mean sea level). Elevation is the position of the ground, not the position of camera. Often the difference will be negligible, where this is not the case the additional altitude of the camera or subject itself should be put in description.
    ReviewComments:25. You have Verbatim Elevation – did you also want an elevation in meters?
    Response:* My opinion is that we should, since dwc data may well have it, and when it is there, consuming apps don't have to parse units, which may vary wildly. In fact, a best practices document should encourage it. If nobody objects, I will add it. --BobMorris 22:53, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Specifying to leave the measurement unit away might result in a verbatim elevation in feet, with no indication that it is feet…, thus interpreted as meters. I think it is safer to recommend best practice of adding the unit. Also, I do not believe a verbatim elevation should contain a converted value, like �-Y΄elevation 91.44 meters‘ Gregor Hagedorn 11:59, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I've changed my opinion. DwC is silent on the matter, hence so should we be. In the DwC googlecode site, they don't even presently discuss altitude, elevation, and depth. In the (obsolescent) wiki site, they give some examples, and we could use those too at some risk that the promised replacement of the wiki by the code site discussion will make the citation obscure. On the grounds of deferring to DwC practice, so I am closing the issue. Feel free to edit the Comments and/or reopen the issue. --BobMorris 06:06, 12 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Glad y'all agree now - and I too! I agree that 1) we should not encourage the conversion of values, as precision is lost, 2) so we should recommending add the units; and 3) there should be best practices on the coding of the units (surely there's a list out there). Then good luck to those (or the machines) combining the data.... AnnetteOlson 20:45, 16 September 2010 (CEST)
    • In terms of altitude versus elevation, Altitude includes elevation by definition. Elevation typically involves a point on the ground, but altitude is really just a vertical distance from a reference point (MSL) - so it can also correspond both to a ground elevation, or to the observer height. In most cases, as you said the difference would be neglible, and how users use these would vary. Very few users would record both ground elevation and camera altitude - it be either the first one (from maps) or the second one from an instrument. The first one would have precision off so much anyway (and we don't have a field for precision). So, to sum up my take on this:
    1. Since altitude is the encompassing term, it should be given as the preferred measure. It should be used for both height and depth. A reference point needs to be given. Since we are global, the preferred reference point should be mean sea level, which we would need to state in the comments section. And altitude would need a minus for measurements of depth.
    2. There should not then be a separate field for ground elevation, as that would be confusing to folks. And I don't want to see us add a precision field in here, or a separate units field - we could get too detailed here. and scare off too many users. fyi, LIFE hardly has anyone recording elevation - and nobody recording altitude - so far it is not a top prioirty to folks (though we're going to be working with water people here soon).
    3. I think that we should just stick to Altitude and explain that ground elevation can be used in place, as long as indicated in text.

    Which answers the other point - I agree with Gregor about needing the ability to have text blocks in there. And finally, if test cases show a need for more refined information later, then that can be developed. AnnetteOlson 20:45, 16 September 2010 (CEST)

    • At the meeting of 17Sep2010 it was decided that all mrtg terms relating to altitude, elevation, depth, be removed and replaced with a single statement listing the eight such terms in DwC and declaring them to be MRTG terms by inclusion. We could consider that for all the DwC Location terms perhaps except for making the distinction between Location Shown and Location Created --BobMorris 03:27, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Semantics of Elevation versus Altitude: According to definitions of elevation versus altitude in Wikipedia, elevation is correct for geolocation, altitude for observer or subject position. --GregorHagedorn 07:59, 23 February 2009 (CET)
  • I believe some field should record the elevation of the geolocation, another the camera altitude. It may be that this is not currently captured, since a geolocation elevation may be missing. -- Proposed description of geolocation-elevation: "Elevation (height of ground level above mean sea level) of observation position. For human-held digital cameras (recording GPS-based height) it is permissible to use the position of the camera instead. A geodetic reference datum may be added in parentheses." --GregorHagedorn 07:59, 23 February 2009 (CET)
  • I'm unhappy about including units. Would require parsing for machine use. Better to have everything that needs units have a units property.--BobMorris 20:30, 8 February 2009 (CET)
    • I think computers should work where they easily can, so I prefer to keep it simple and allow various expressions of elevation, including textual ones. --GregorHagedorn 14:08, 22 February 2009 (CET)

  • 8 Temporal Coverage Vocabulary

    Name:Temporal Coverage
    Normative URI: dcterms:temporal [1]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The extent or scope of the content of the resource. Temporal coverage will typically include temporal period (a period label, date, or date range) to which the subjects of the media or media collection relate. If dates are mentioned, they should follow ISO 8601. When the resource is a Collection, this refers to the temporal coverage of the collection.
    Comments:Examples in English: "Jurassic", "Elizabethan", "Spring, 1957". 2008-01-01/2008-06-30. If the resource is video or audio, it refers to the time span, if any, depicted by the resource. For live-media this is closely related to Creation Date and time (Example: the time depicted by a time-lapse video file of organism development), but for media with fictional content it is not.
    ReviewComments:26. Clarify that Temporal Coverage presumably relates to collections and Original Date and Time to media resources?
    Response:Actually it doesn't. I have clarified language. Curiously, in our unrendered Discussion I speculated that the confusion might arise. As to Original Date and Time is also about the subject of the media, but is meant to disambiguate when the original of a derived resource was created. --BobMorris 23:07, 17 August 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Any reason not to just adopt NCD URI here? Do we risk raising the question of whether this applies only to collections? (It doesn't). Alternative is MRTG namespace. --BobMorris 06:40, 4 April 2009 (CEST)
    • I think NCD clearly relates to collections only and is therefore problematic. I propose dcterms:temporal [1] -- Gregor
    Name:Original Date and Time
    Normative URI: xmp:CreateDate[3]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The date of the creation for the original resource from which the digital media was derived or created. The date and time must comply with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) datetime practice, which requires that date and time representation correspond to ISO 8601:1998, but with year fields always comprising 4 digits. This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004. AC datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/'). See also the wikipedia IS0 8601 entry for further explanation and examples.
    Comments:What is what constitutes "original" is determined by the metadata author. Example: Digitization of a photographic slide of a map would normally give the date at which the map was created; however a photographic work of art including the same map as its content may give the date of the original photographic exposure. Imprecise or unknown dates can be represented as ISO dates or ranges. Compare also Date and Time Digitized.
    • Is this redundant? BobMorris 18:31, 1 February 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Time of Day
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:timeOfDay [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Free text information beyond exact clock times.
    Comments:Examples in English: afternoon, twilight.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"Should perhaps be rename "Verbatim Time of Day"? --GregorHagedorn 00:30, 2 March 2009 (CET)
    • Note that DwC is not free text - "expressed as decimal hours from midnight, local time".


    9 Subject of Resource Vocabulary

    Name:Physical Setting
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:physicalSetting [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The Setting of the content represented in a medium like images, sounds, movies. Constrained vocabulary of: "Natural" = Unmodified object in a natural setting of unmodified object (e. g. living organisms in their natural environment); "Artificial" = Unmodified object in artificial setting of (e. g. living organisms in artificial environment: Zoo, Garden, Greenhouse, Laboratory; photographic background or background sound suppression). "Irrelevant" (e. g. background of Museum shots).
    Comments:Multiple values may be needed for movies.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"*So we provide only an English controlled vocabulary here? I think anything else is too cumbersome. --BobMorris 06:40, 4 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Category
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CVterm [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Controlled vocabulary of subjects to support broad classification of media items. Terms from various controlled vocabularies may be used. MRTG-recommended vocabularies are preferred and may be unqualified literals (without a URI). For terms from other vocabularies either a precise URI should be used, or, when providing unqualified terms, to provide the source vocabulary in Subject Category Vocabulary.
    Comments:Recommended sets include: tha NASA Global Change Master Directory (GCMD) [9], K2N [10], the BioComplexity Thesaurus[11], and the European Environmental Agency GEneral Multilingual Environmental Thesaurus(GEMET) [12]. The vocabulary may include major taxonomic groups (such as ΄vertebrates‘ or ΄fungi‘) or ecosystem terms (΄savannah‘, ΄temperate rain forest‘, ΄forest fires‘, ΄aquatic vertebrates‘). In the case where the unqualified terms from different vocabularies are homographs, the MRTG recommendation provides an order of preference for assigning terms to specific vocabularies. This includes other formal classifications (published in print or online) such as habitat, fuel, invasive species, agroproductivity, fisheries, migratory species etc.
    ReviewComments:27. Subject Category comments needs cleaning up.
    Response:The Comments field lacks references. We can all work on any of these we know. --BobMorris 15:58, 18 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I don't know how to do footnotes here, so Bob, if you can add in for the Biocomplexity thesaurus the url: http://thesaurus.nbii.gov, under which a list of controlled vocabularies is also provided via the menu on the left (but the direct url sucks).AnnetteOlson 23:22, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Added citations. However, I don't know what we meen by "In the case where the unqualified terms from different vocabularies are homographs, the MRTG recommendation provides an order of preference for assigning terms to specific vocabularies." so I am leaving this open. --BobMorris 04:26, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Comment on mapping this to http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/CVterm [5]
    "Maybe. But we tend to do the same thing in the places where we need to, so I am not sure why we would do this. Again, for it to have any utility, a query agent would need to always search it, no matter what its specific desires." Bob Morris, 2009-03-02
    • Major TODO: finalize Comments with specific recommendations. --BobMorris 06:40, 4 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Category Vocabulary
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:subjectCategoryVocabulary [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Any vocabulary or formal classification from which terms in Subject Category have been drawn.
    Comments:The MRTG recommended vocabularies do not need to be cited here. There is no linkage between individual Subject Category terms and the vocabulary; the mechanism is intended to support discovery of the normative URI for a term, but not guarantee it.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"*File:Warning.gif Oops, now "Vocabulary" has a confusing sense. Suggestions? How about making the other be MRTG Something Vocabulary and leave this as is --BobMorris 06:58, 23 March 2009 (CET)
    • I don’t follow, what is confusing? Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Tag
    Normative URI:

    Information about submission as TDWG standard
    MRTG Wiki Homepage
    Current Schema Draft. This version is under internal review as part of the submission to TDWG.
    Audubon Core Non normative document
    MRTG Development History
    MRTG Meeting Notes
    MRTG Best Practices
    XML Schema representation of Audubon Core
    RDF representation of Audubon Core
    MediaWiki Help

    mrtg:tag [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: General keywords or tags.
    Comments:Tags may be multi-worded phrases. Where scientific names, common names, geographic locations, etc. are separable, these should go into the more specific metadata items provided further below. Examples: "flower diagram". Character or part keywords like "leaf", "flower color" are especially desirable.


    10 Taxonomic Coverage Vocabulary

    Name:Taxon Coverage
    Normative URI: ncd:taxonCoverage[7]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A higher taxon (e. g., a genus, family, or order) at the level of the genus or higher, that covers all taxa that are the primary subject of the resource (which may be a media item or a collection).
    Comments:Example: Where the subject of an image is several species of ducks with trees visible in the background, Taxon Coverage would still be Anatidae (and not Biota). Example: �-Y΄Aves‘ for a bird key or a bird image collection. Do not add a rank (΄Class Aves‘) in this field. Note that this somewhat expands the usage of ncd:taxonCoverage[7], which specifies at the Family level or higher. For collections it is recommended to follow ncd:taxonCoverage[7] to avoid conflicts between a MRTG record and a record arising from NCD. If the resource contains a single taxon, this should be placed in Scientific Name. In this case Taxon Coverage may be left empty, but if not, care should be taken that the entries do not conflict. Example: If Scientific Name is Quercus alba then Taxon Coverage, if provided at all, should be Quercus.
    ReviewComments:28: ΄A higher taxon (e. g. a genus, family, or order) at the level of the family or higher‘ – are genera allowed or not? The Taxonomic Coverage comments seem to include ΄Lowest Common Taxon‘ as a synonym.
    Response:28.
    • The intention is to include genera, and I have clarified that in the Comments. Also added a warning that this is a slight extension to NCD, but that restriction to Family should be followed for a collection object. -- Bob
    • Agree. -- Gregor
    • Replaced "Lowest Common Taxon" with "taxonCoverage". Separately: the recommendation to leave taxonCoverage empty if the resource contains only a single taxon fails to distinguish the case where coverage is a single taxon from the case where the coverage is unknown. This violates the implicit open world assumption of the normative schema (which, by the way, should perhaps be documented in the introduction). Comments? Suggestions? --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
    • sorry, no. I see no real use case for a distinction between ΄unknown‘ and ΄discoverable‘, or perhaps it just confuses me… Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I agree with Gregor AnnetteOlson 23:22, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Suppose one makes a query of the form "Return all records with taxonCoverage empty". From such a recordset one cannot conclude that the taxonCoverage for those records is indeed empty, because the recommendation is to leave it empty in case the coverage is exactly one taxon, which is to be found in ScientificName. If it is to be a requirement that the only way to determine if the coverage is indeed empty is to also query ScientificName, then this has to be part of the definition, not part of the Comments. Personally, I oppose tight coupling of two terms that have no deep semantic reason to be coupled. I think it will ultimately bite us in some way. But if someone wants to have a go at making the Definition unambiguous, I'll leave it open for further discussion. Anyway, even my position needs something added to the Discussion, e.g. the remark that the content of ScientificName may need to be repeated in the case that there is only one taxon. Yes, the same data in two places risks lowering robustness, but if the alternative is ambiguity so be it. --BobMorris 06:24, 12 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Edited discussion per telecon of 17Sep2010. Closing, but feel free to improve description (leaving a note here). Still have the concerns above about empty content. --BobMorris 22:12, 17 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* for DwC, "HigherTaxon" is closest but is "A list (concatenated and separated) of the names for the taxonomic ranks less specific than the ScientificName."
  • also for NCD ncd:kingdomCoverage[7]
  • I propose adopting ncd URI --BobMorris 06:40, 4 April 2009 (CEST)
  • For an RDF representation of MRTG, there is a problem here and in a few other places where the Item URI comes from an RDF ontology. It is this: ncd:taxonCoverage[7] is an object property, but the commentary seems to suggest here that we mean a datatype property, e. g. a string. --BobMorris 00:02, 11 October 2009 (CEST)
  • Name:Scientific Name
    Normative URI: dwc:scientificName[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Scientific taxon names of organisms represented in the media resource (with date and authorship information if available) of the lowest level taxonomic rank that can be applied.
    Comments:The Scientific Name may possibly be a Genus or Family name, if this is the most specific identification available. Where multiple taxa are the subject, multiple names may be given. If possible, add this information here even if the title or caption of the resource already contains scientific names. Where the list of scientific names is impractically large (e. g., media collections or identification tools), the number of taxa should be given in Taxon Count (see below). If possible, please do not repeat the Taxonomic Coverage here. Do not use abbreviated Genus names ("P. vulgaris"). It is recommended to provide author citation to scientific names, to avoid ambiguities in the presence of homonyms (the same name created by different authors for different taxa). Identifier qualifications should be supplied in the Identification Qualifier term rather than here (i. e. ΄Abies cf. alba‘ is deprecated, to be replaced with Scientific Name = ΄Abies cf. alba‘ and Identification Qualifier = ΄cf.‘).
    ReviewComments:30. Scientific Name raises the question of Identification Qualifier.
    Response:I agree we should add dwc:identificationQualifier[8] and will do so barring objections. --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)

    I agree adding identificationQualifier Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)

    • Done. --BobMorris 06:29, 12 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Identification Qualifier
    Normative URI: dwc:identificationQualifier[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: A brief phrase or a standard abbreviation ("cf. genus", "cf. species", "cf. var.", "aff. species", etc.) to express the determiner's doubts about the identification given in Scientific Name.
    Comments:Examples: 1) For the determinations ΄cf. Quercus agrifolia var. oxyadenia‘, ΄Quercus cf. agrifolia var. oxyadenia‘, ΄Quercus agrifolia cf. var. oxyadenia‘, Scientific Name would always be ΄Quercus agrifolia var. oxyadenia‘, with Identification Qualifier ΄cf. genus‘, ΄cf. species‘ and ΄cf. var.‘, respectively. For discussion of Darwin Core usage see http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Identification
    ReviewComments:30. Scientific Name raises the question of Identification Qualifier.
    Response:Added Identification Qualifier. I've copied in the Definition and Comments from dwc:identificationQualifier[8] but I must say they are written so that only a taxonomist would understand them. I don't. Should someone rephrase more friendly examples? Maybe then people could put in crosswalks. --BobMorris 17:39, 27 August 2010 (CEST)
    • Adapted the comments. The Darwin core recommendations assume the presence of atomic taxon name parts, to make the property usable with combined Scientific names the vocabulary of the Identification Qualifier has to be changed relatively to DwC. However, since DwC allows ΄phrases‘, this seems permissible. Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Common Name
    Normative URI: dwc:vernacularName[8]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Common (= vernacular) names of the subject in one or several languages. The ISO language name should be given in parentheses after the name if not all names are in Metadata Language.
    Comments:Applicable only if the resource relates to a single taxon. The ISO language codes after the name should be formatted as in the following example: 'abete bianco (it); Tanne (de); White Fir (en)'. If names are known to be male- or female-specific, this may be specified as in: 'ewe (en-female); ram (en-male);'.
    Name:Taxon According To
    Normative URI: dwc:taxonAccordingTo[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The taxonomic authority used to apply the name to the taxon, e. g., a book or web service from which the name comes from.
    Comments:Examples are "ITIS", "Catalogue of Life", "Peterson's guide for birds".
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "This field needs to be defined more, and intent decided on, but could be important." (From spreadsheet)
    • "this is a Darwin Core question; can refers to one of the authoritiative GSD, such as IT IS. Question comes up here of matching names and sources, and the capabilities of coding that." (From spreadsheet)
    Name:Scientific Name GUID
    Normative URI: dwc:taxonID[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: Equivalent to Scientific Name, but using GUIDs such to refer to the taxon names or concepts.
    Name:Scientific Name Synonym
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:scientificNameSynonym [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: One or several scientific names that are synonyms to the Scientific Name may be provided here.
    Comments:The primary purpose of this is in support of resource discovery, not developing a taxonomic synonymy. Misidentification or misspellings may thus be of interest. Where multiple taxa are present in a resource and multiple Scientific Names are given, the association between synonym and name is not discoverable.
    Name:Identified By
    Normative URI: dwc:identifiedBy[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The name(s) of the person(s) who applied the Scientific Name to the sample.
    Name:Date Identified
    Normative URI: dwc:dateIdentified[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The date on which the person(s) given under Identfied By applied a Scientific Name to the resource.
    Comments:What happens if there is more than 1 taxon on the media resource? --BobMorris 18:50,30 February 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Taxon Count
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:taxonCount [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: An exact or estimated number of taxa at the lowest applicable taxon rank (usually species or infraspecific) represented by the media resource (item or collection).
    Comments:Primarily intended for resource collections and singular resources dealing with sets of taxa (e. g., identification tools, videos). It is recommended to give an exact or estimated number of specific taxa when a complete list of taxa is not available or practical. The count should contain only the taxa covered fully or primarily by the resource. For a taxon page and most images this will be ΄1‘, i. e. other taxa mentioned on the side or in the background should not be counted. However, sometimes a resource may illustrate an ecological or behavioral entity with multiple species, e. g., a host-pathogen interaction; taxon count would then indicate the known number of species in this interaction. This should be a single integer number. Leave the field empty if you cannot estimate the information (do not enter 0). Additional taxon counts at higher levels (e. g. how many families are covered by a digital Fauna) should be given verbatim in the resource description, not here.
    ReviewComments:31.Taxon Count seems rather problematic. I have images of several species in the genus Proteuxoa and many images not assigned to species in the same genus. Do I count the fully-identified species and add one for the genus? In many cases, this gets even messier. What is the use case for this element?
    Response:Removed the case of higher taxa (originally there were separate properties, the previous combination was an attempt to simplify. Now higher taxon counts referred to description free from text. Use case: identification tool ΄Key to Birds of Danube Delta‘, or video ΄Birds of Danube Delta‘ with taxon count = 10 has greatly different utility than the same titles with taxon count = 250. Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I made some minor wording changes above, plus added in a follow-up to the multiple species statement (after the hyphen). Please doublecheck Gregor that I caught your meaning. AnnetteOlson 23:28, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Closing per discussion of today --BobMorris 18:53, 17 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Part
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    mrtg:subjectPart [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The portion of the organism, environment, etc. shown or particularly well illustrated.
    Comments:No formal encoding scheme as yet exists. Examples are "whole body", "head", "flower", "leaf", "canopy" (of a rain forest stand).
    • See comment in discussion below about a nascent encoding scheme.--Steve Baskauf 16:42, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* I would suggest the use of standardized views (Vulpia 7:16-30) as a way to deal with this element and the following three elements. A standardized view represents an orientation of a particular organism part that has been found to present useful taxonomic characters or recognizable features for identification. I have found through experience that there are a limited number of such views for a particular group of organisms and have defined sets of standardized views for woody angiospermsherbaceous angiosperms and Gymnosperms as collections in Morphbank. If standardized views became a part of this schema, one element would probably be required to specify the view set and another element would be required to specify the view within the set. It would also be necessary to figure out how to formally define the views, establish controlled vocabulary, and to define view sets for other groups of organisms based on the knowledge of photographers with experience in that group. The advantage of this system is that the view sets would be contain views that were relevant to that group - it is difficult to create generic views applicable to all organisms because of morphological differences among groups and because on a large taxonomic scale organisms don't even have the same features. Having a way to specify a particular useful view (such as a frontal view of a flower) makes it much easier for users to search for the specific type of image they want. Although I don't have experience with defining view sets beyond plants, this concept could theoretically be extended to other non-organismal subject of biological interest, such as ecoregions, habitats, etc. --Steve Baskauf 13:06, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Sex
    Normative URI: dwc:sex[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: A description of the sex of any organisms featured within the media, when relevant to the subject of the media, e. g., male, female, hermaphrodite, dioecious.
    ReviewComments:32. For Sex, is it worth mentioning that GBIF has a vocabulary under development?
    Response:My feeling is that such information belongs in an ancillary "Release Notes" or an Applicability document, at least until such a vocabulary is in circulation. This document should only refer to widely available and preferably widely used vocabularies. Comments? --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I agree, having made similar comments earlier. AnnetteOlson 23:31, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • I am closing this and hope and expect we will argue forcefully that this is not where best practices or applicability statements belong. If the Reviewer or the community is adamant, we can reconsider this position. This is an excellent example of the problem of putting stuff in the normative document, because practice will be quite different for plants and animals. --BobMorris 05:08, 15 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Although this element is generally useful for animals, it is problematic or even irrelevant for most plants. In most cases, sex is a property of a plant part, not the organism itself. For many plant features (e. g. bark, leaves, buds) sex is irrelevant or undeterminable. In a plant context, including sex in the definition of a view (see above) of floral parts or cones makes more sense. A given individual plant may have an image of a male cone, a female cone, and bark where sex is irrelevant. --Steve Baskauf 16:42, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Life Stage
    Normative URI: dwc:lifeStage[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: A description of the life-cycle stage of any organisms featured within the media, when relevant to the subject of the media, e. g., larvae, juvenile, adult.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* In a similar vein to my comment on sex, this element has very limited use for many plants. For example, most long-lived trees cycle annually through an "immature" (from a meristematic point of view) stage - budburst, to sexual maturity (anthesis), to fruit development. Thus "life stage" is really more relevant to a plant part than the plant as a whole, except in the case of a seedling where unquestionably the entire plant is immature. Again, the concept of a view can handle this by referencing life stage for individual parts or the whole organism (e. g. floral development) when relevant and leaving it out when it is not (e. g. for leaf images). --Steve Baskauf 16:42, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Orientation
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:subjectOrientation [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Specific orientiation (= direction, view angle) of the subject represented in the media resource with respect to the acquisition device.
    Comments:Examples: "dorsal", "ventral", "frontal", etc. No formal encoding scheme as yet exists.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Again, included in the view concept when relevant. --Steve Baskauf 16:42, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Subject Preparation Technique
    Normative URI: dwc:preparations[8]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Free form text describing the techniques used to prepare the subject prior or while creating the media resource.
    Comments:Examples for such techniques are: Insect under CO2, cooled to immobility, preservation with ethanol or formaldehyde. See also Resource Creation Technique for technical aspects of digital media object creation.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* related NCD element: ncd:specimenPreservationMethod[7]


    11 Technical Metadata Vocabulary

    Name:Location Created
    Normative URI: http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/LocationCreated [5]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: The location at which the media recording instrument was placed when the media was created.
    Comments:The distinction between location shown and created is often irrelevant, and metadata may be assumed to be referring to location shown. It is recommended that the Location Shown field above always be used when known. However, in the case of position data automatically recorded by the instrument (e. g. EXIF GPS data) Location Created should be used to maintain information accuracy. When one but not both of Location Shown and Location Created are present, MRTG is silent about whether the provided one entails the other. A best practices document for a particular MRTG implementation might address this.
    ReviewComments:33. The description of Location Created mentions ΄location shown‘ (which doesn’t seem to be a recommended element) – is there some distinction which MRTG metadata is expected to support in this context?
    Response:Yes, and it is documented in the original comments in the Geography Vocabulary Introduction, in Location Shown, and here. I have expanded the Comments here for further clarification, so committee should especially look that over. Also, is expansion needed in Location Shown? --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I am completely uncertain about the present form. I understand that in Iptc4xmpExt is a class having properties (like Geographic Coordinates, etc.), not a simple literal. I don’t understand whether this is clear here. Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
      • This may need more thought. The Iptc documents refer to "basic datatype" as "structure" but I find no formal statement of what that might mean. There is some reference to the fact that the normative document doesn't take a position on representation, nor in this case does it take a position on what other attributes should form part of the structure of a LocationCreated or LocationShown. Do we need instead (in addtion?) a mrtg:VerbatimLocationCreated and mrtg:VerbatimLocationShown. --BobMorris 05:24, 15 September 2010 (CEST)
    • Right now, Bob's new wording of the Comments field seems clear to me, but I haven't read the iptc....(and won't~ ;-))AnnetteOlson 23:31, 2 September 2010 (CEST)
    • I have closed this since the ReviewComments are addressed by clarifying wording. Note however that it really should be in the same section as Location Shown. At the meeting of 17Sep2010 it was decided that Annette and Bob would rearrange terms in a more rational way. The fact that this is related to Location Shown is far more important than that it can often be provided by the imaging device automatically. We agreed that "Technical Metadata" as a name for things provided by the device is not a useful category, and will take it out during the rearrangement. --BobMorris 03:15, 18 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Date and Time Digitized
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    mrtg:digitizationDate [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Date the first digital version was created, where different Date and Time Original (e. g. where photographic prints have been scanned). The date and time must comply with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) datetime practice, which requires that date and time representation correspond to ISO 8601:1998, but with year fields always comprising 4 digits. This makes datetime records compliant with 8601:2004. AC datetime values may also follow 8601:2004 for ranges by separating two IS0 8601 datetime fields by a solidus ("forward slash", '/'). See also the wikipedia IS0 8601 entry for further explanation and examples.
    Comments:This is often not the file creation or modification date. Use the international (ISO/xml) format yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm (e. g. "2007-12-31" or "2007-12-31T14:59"). Where available, timezone information should be added. In the case of digital images containing EXIF, whereas the exif capture date does not contain time zone information, exif GPSDateStamp and GPSTimeStamp may be relevant as these include time-zone information. Compare also MWG (2008), which has best practice on handling time-zone-less EXIF date/time data.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* As of the date in which I'm making this comment, this term doesn't yet have a normative URI. I don't know if that means that the normative URI hasn't yet been decided, if this was overlooked, or if there was some disagreement of what it should be. It seems clear to me that it should be dcterms:created which is defined in a straightforward manner as "Date of creation of the resource".

    I am, however, left scratching my head as to why this element (which seems to me to be a very fundamental property of a digital media resource) has been relegated to a "Technical extension" rather than as one of the core elements. I suspect that this is another instance where my experience has caused me to have a different outlook than others. 99.9% of my images are taken of existing physical objects with a digital camera rather than scanned from existing artwork, film slides, or taken from a publication. In my circumstance, the "Original Time and Date" either doesn't mean anything or is the same as "Date and Time Digitized". If I take a picture of a tree, what does the core term Original Time and Date ("The date of the creation for the original resource from which the digital object was derived or created.") mean? The date the tree was planted? The date I discovered it? If the tree isn't the original resource and the digital image is the original resource, then the definition of "Original Time and Date" doesn't make any sense.

    I'm not sure what the answer is to these questions, I just know that I don't understand how I would use Original Time and Date. With my orientation, if I were writing the schema, I would probably have made Date and Time Digitized a core element (since all digital media resources have it) and relegated Original Time and Date to an extension (since it only applies to a subset of digital media resources which are digital representations of physical media representations of physical objects). If it were ten years ago, I would consider my outlook as the unusual one because at that time probably most digital media resources were being created by digitizing existing physical media items. However, I would venture to say that at the present, the fraction of new digital media items that are being generated directly (either through digital photography or generated directly from software such as GIS or animation software) is much higher than the fraction being created from digitizing physical media items. The fraction will probably be even greater in the future. So why is the digital creation date part of an extension (i.e. I'm assuming considered less important than Original Time and Date)? Steve Baskauf 05:22, 28 October 2009 (CET)

    There is a huge amount of legacy digital media, e. g. people's slides. If you took a picture on such media and subsequently digitized it, the Original Time and Date is the date at which the photograph was taken, and the Date and Time Digitized is the date and time at which the digital record was made. If you are extracting a time and date recorded by the device itself, and you intend that the subject was that originally depicted, e. g. the digital record is a picture of a tree, not a picture of a picture of a tree because you are imaging a photograph, then these two notions of date are generally different. The Original Time and Date is usually the more biologically interesting and that is why it is in the core. The Date and Time Digitized may be more of curatorial interest than scientific interest. Indeed, there are ongoing arguments about whether a image of intellectual property is new or derivative property, and in such arguments, the distinction may be especially important. We felt that the date at which the scene was originally captured has greater scientific import than the date at which the digital record is made---in case they are different---we put the former in the core but not the latter. People putting metadata on images made by contemporary cameras are likely to find that their best practice is to make Original Time and Date be that recorded by the device, assuming it is properly set. --BobMorris 20:19, 23 January 2010 (CET)
    Name:Capture Device
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    mrtg:captureDevice [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Free form text describing the device or devices used to create the resource.
    Comments:It is best practice to record the device; this may include a combination such as camera plus lens, or camera plus microscope. Examples: "Canon Supershot 2000", "Makroscan Scanner 2000", "Zeiss Axioscope with Camera IIIu", "SEM (Scanning Electron Microscope)".
    Name:Resource Creation Technique
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    mrtg:resourceCreationTechnique [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Information about technical aspects of the creation and digitization process of the resource. This includes modification steps ("retouching") after the initial resource capture.
    Comments:Examples: Encoding method or settings, numbers of channels, lighting, audio sampling rate, frames per second, data rate, interlaced or progressive, multiflash lighting, remote control, automatic interval exposure.

    Annotating whether and how a resource has been modified or edited significantly in ways that are not immediately obvious or expected to consumers is of special significance. Examples for images are: Removing a distracting twig from a picture, moving an object to a different surrounding, changing the color in parts of the image, or blurring the background of an image. Modifications that are standard practice and expected or obvious to users are not necessary to document; examples of such expected include changing resolution, cropping, minor sharpening or overall color correction, clearly perceptable modifications (adding arrows or labels, combination or multiple pictures into a table. If it is only known that significant modifications were made, but no details are known, a general statement like �-Y΄Media may have been manipulated to improve appearance‘ may be appropriate.

    See also Subject Preparation Technique.


    12 Service Access Point Vocabulary

    See Discussion at ServiceAccessPoint especially as to whether Class structure is correct. --BobMorris 04:10, 15 August 2009 (CEST)

    12.1 ServiceAccessPoint Class

    Name:Access Point
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    mrtg:hasServiceAccessPoint [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: reference to an instance of a class describing network access to the media resource, or related resources, that the metadata describes. What constitutes a class is dependent on the representation (i.e. XML Schema, RDF, etc.)
    Comments:Use with the properties below. In particular, there is little point to having an instance of this class without a value for the Access URL and perhaps the Format. Implementers in specific constraint languages such as XML Schema or OWL may wish to make those two properties mandatory on instances.


    12.2 Service Access Point Properties

    Name:Access URL
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:accessURL [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: URL of the resource itself
    Comments:For individual resources only. Use this field if only one quality level is available (as it is typical for taxon pages or keys!) Value might point to something offline, such as a published CD, etc.
    Name:Format
    Normative URI: dcterms:format [1]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The technical format of the resource (file format or physical medium).
    Comments:Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the list of Internet Media Types [MIME]. This item is recommended for offline digital content. In cases where the provided URL includes a standard file extension from which the format can be inferred it is permissible to not provide this item.

    Three types of values are acceptable: (a) any MIME type; (b) common file extensions like txt, doc, odf, jpg/jpeg, png, pdf; (c) the following special values: Data-CD, Audio-CD, Video-CD, Data-DVD, Audio-DVD, Video-DVD-PAL, Video-DVD-NTSC, photographic slide, photographic print.

    Compare Type for the content-type.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* NCD distinguishes format ("Use for digital collections, recording MIME Types or PUIDs.") from medium ("Use for digital collections, recording the material or physical carrier of the resource e. g. DVD-R.") (CET)
    Name:Variant
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    mrtg:variant [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: What this ServiceAccessPoint provides. Permitted values are "Thumbnail", "Trailer", "Lower Quality", "Medium Quality", "Good Quality", "Best Quality", "Offline"
    Comments:*Thumbnail: ServiceAccessPoint provides a thumbnail image, short sound clip, or short movie clip that can be used to represent the media object, typically at lower quality and higher compression than the preview object. A typical size for a tiny thumbnail image may be 50-100 pixels in the longer dimension.
    • Trailer: ServiceAccessPoint provides video clip preview, in the form of a specifically authored "Trailer", which may provider somewhat different content than the original resource
    • Lower Quality: ServiceAccessPoint provides a lower quality version of the media resource, suitable e. g. for web sites.
    • Medium Quality: ServiceAccessPoint provides a medium quality version of the media resource, e. g. shortened in duration, or reduced size, using lower resolution or higher compression causing moderate artifacts.
    • Good Quality: ServiceAccessPoint provides a good quality version of the media resource intended for resources displayed as primary information; e. g. an image between 800 and 1600 px in width or height.
    • Best Quality: ServiceAccessPoint provides the highest available quality of the media resource, whatever its resolution or quality level.
    • Offline: ServiceAccessPoint provides data about an offline resource.
    ReviewComments:34. How do Service Access Point Variants relate to the use of pan-and-zoom image viewers?
    Response:* Excellent question. But I wonder if a pan-and-zoom object isn't a separate resource from any of its constituents, This goes to the question of whether MRTG metadata is about the resource, or the abstract object depicted in the resource. Our intent is the former, which to my mind suggests this means we need another recommended value for Type, perhaps "pan-and-zoom-image." In such a case, there might still be variants of the resource, just as for any other video. Comments? --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
  • I agree with Bob: pan-and-zoom is a separate subtype interactive resource, having special properties that make it substantially different from a single image resource. I see it as a new form, like video to still-image. At least for pan-resources, different quality variants are quite conceivable (for zoom this is less likely, but it is still possible to have different depth of zoom made available under different access points or licenses). Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
  • makes sense to me.AnnetteOlson 00:07, 3 September 2010 (CEST)
  • I added " Also recommended are PanAndZoomImage , 3DStillImage, and 3DMovingImage." to the "Type" attribute. But an issue remains first raised by Steve Bauskauf in MRTGv08_Type_term_inconsistent_with_DwC. Some of that inconsistency has been resolved in DwC, but what still remains for us is that the particular vocabulary we (and dc) recommend is the names of classes from the dcmi type vocabulary. Are we there recommending a class, or just the name of a class? In the latter case, what do we mean by adding suggestion values to the dcmi type vocabulary? Does it matter? Do we need to add to the commentary in Type? In any case, I am closing this issue because any discussion belongs in Type. --BobMorris 05:59, 15 September 2010 (CEST)
  • Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Since some of these are important and some not, it is unclear to me what advice to offer as to whether application builders are in trouble if they ignore some of them. --BobMorris 19:14, 28 January 2010 (CET)
  • Since the permitted values are identifiers, not labels, I really think it better to have them in CamelCase, with no whitespace. If there are no persuasive arguments otherwise, I will change them to that.--BobMorris 19:14, 28 January 2010 (CET)
  • Name:Extent
    Normative URI: dcterms:extent [1]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The size, dimensions, or duration of the variant of the media resource.
    Comments:Best practices are: Extent as length/running time should use standard abbreviations of the metadata language (for English "20 s", "54 min"). Extent of images or video may be given as pixel size ("2000 x 1500 px"), or as file size (using kB, kByte, MB, MByte).
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* I'm worried that this term is too comprehensive and in particular not amenable to machine processing. Note that IS0 8601 provides standards for duration. Maybe we should refactor this term into separate, machine parseable, fields. Surely IPTC has size fields. --BobMorris 17:35, 29 March 2009 (CEST)
      • IPTC has neither size nor extent. XMP has Rendition Class with attributes specifying some aspects of size, plus xmp:Thumbnails, an array of thumbnail objects. It further has xmpDM:videoPixelDepth and color depth properties. I could not find an image pixel extent property, although I believe it should exist there. --GregorHagedorn 08:53, 3 April 2009 (CEST)
    • However, I am not too worried about machine processing here. If we want to provide users with help to estimate fitness of purpose prior to access the media object itself, as is stated in our MRTG reports, we need this. Nothing wrong with making it better machine processable, but in the absence of a good solution for that, keep it human accessible. And I believe good programmers can make such information machine accessible... --GregorHagedorn 08:53, 3 April 2009 (CEST)
    Name:Further Information URL
    Normative URI:

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    Audubon Core Non normative document
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    mrtg:furtherInformationURL [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The URL of a Web site that provides additional information about (this version of) the media resource
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Is this different from attribution link URL?
    Name:Licensing Exception Statement
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:licensingException [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The licensing statement for this variant of the media resource if different from that given in the �-Y΄License Statement‘ property of the resource
    Comments:Required only if this version has different licensing than that of the media resource. E. g. the highest resolution version may be more restricted than lower resolution versions
    Name:Availability Exception
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:availabilityException [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: The availability statement for this variant of the media resource if different from that given in the Availability property of the resource
    ReviewComments:35. Explain ΄Availability Exception (see Key2Nature)
    Response:Removed "(see Key2Nature)". --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* There is no availability field in the main body of the resource. --GregRiccardi 14:53, 13 March 2009 (CET)
    • In response to Gregor's email request for an availability field given here:
    I believe Availability is completely broken.
    It seems that an attempt was made to shift offline into the variants

    of best quality etc and the real Availability was deleted. The Availability exception is still present though but makes no sense as an "exception".

    Offline as a service access point makes not much sense to me.
    K2N Availability allowed to distinguish between: "online (free)", "online (login)", "unpublished (digital)", "published

    (digital)", "published", "unpublished"

    In practice, the distinction between a URL that gives access and one

    that only leads to a login form was considered of interest in K2N.

    Can we express this? Do we want to express this? Do we want to have a

    resource-wide expression of Availability with exceptions in the ServiceAccessPoints?

    • I'm not sure what you mean by ServiceAccessPoints. And I don't remember what MRTG meant originally by availability. But in my mind Availability was the equivalent of LIFE's Distribution field, which is what we use to determine whether the metadata about an image resource - (including the urls up to the medium resolution versions of the image) - is Available to share with others, or not. For internal management we do need to have a field to note which ones are not available for use, and which ones are allowed to go out through our web service. Published, et. al. go in a separate field called Status. K2N's availability is somewhat similar but combines our two fields.AnnetteOlson 20:45, 16 September 2010 (CEST)
    Name:Variant Description
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:variantDescription [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Text that describes this Service Access Point variant
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* The definition of version should be limited to content that is identical except for quality, availability, license, etc. When is a descriptions necessary? Such cases are probably better served if handled as separate resources, and given a resource to resource relation like derived from. the version-specific description should thus be dropped. --GregorHagedorn 12:11, 29 March 2009 (CEST)


    13 Related Resources Vocabulary

    Name:Containing Collection ID
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    mrtg:containingCollectionID [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: An arbitrary code that is unique among a provider's metadata records of type ΄Collection‘ and by which the media resources are linked to their collection.
    Comments:If the resource is not a collection - this field is for relating a collection to the resource. Each image, sound or taxon page should belong to a collection. Examples: "1", "BrdSng", "328423".
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Definition is too vague about "and by which the media resources are linked to their collection." --BobMorris 20:53, 13 February 2009 (CET)
    • We had issues with people misunderstanding CollectionID as ID of , rather than ID to. I propose to rename this to MemberOfCollectionByID? --GregorHagedorn 12:23, 23 February 2009 (CET)
    • Why not just MemberOfCollection with spec being that the value is an ID? We don't have any other MemberOfCollection? --BobMorris 23:54, 13 March 2009 (CET)
      • the natural response by non-programmers for "member of which collection"? would, in my opionion, be to give the collection by its title. We know that is not unique enough. I like names to be clear, but if MemberOfCollectionByID is sounding too complicated, we just have to make sure that the definition is clear. Problem when not specifying which ID or what form is that we cannot validate that MemberOfCollection = "XYZ Butterfly images" is invalid. --GregorHagedorn 18:34, 14 March 2009 (CET)
      • WE NEED TO SETTLE THIS NAME.
      • How about "ID of Containing Collection" with another item "Name of Containing Collection", perhaps with the first being preferred. --BobMorris 18:52, 14 March 2009 (CET)
      •  ?? We need a comment that this need not be the ID specified in the Identifier metadata item, although that is a recommended practice. --BobMorris 17:38, 14 March 2009 (CET)
    • Do we need to specify semantics of inheritance? If R is a MemberOfCollection A, which is a MemberOfCollection B, are applications allowed to conclude that R is a MemberOfCollection B? --BobMorris 17:38, 14 March 2009 (CET)
    Name:Collection Member By ID
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    mrtg:memberIDinCollection [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A link
    Comments:If the resource is not a collection - this field is for relating a collection to the resource. Each image, sound or taxon page should belong to a collection. Examples: "1", "BrdSng", "328423".
    ReviewComments:36. The definition of Collection Member By ID is ΄A link‘ – not clear, and not supported by the examples given.
    Response:* The unrendered "Discussion" field reveals some confusion on our part too. Somebody want to attack this? --BobMorris 20:29, 19 August 2010 (CEST)
    • I don’t understand this item. I propose to delete it. Was it meant as a discussion alternative to containingCollectionID? Gregor Hagedorn 17:02, 30 August 2010 (CEST)
    I think that, the way we have these fields titled, that "Containing Collection ID" is very confusing (it gives the impression that it this resource CONTAINS subcollections), and I think it should be renamed to MemberofCollectionID (not "by ID", as "by ID" implies that the method of relating is given the ID, not the collection; I think that most users do equate Resource ID, Collection ID okay), and that we only have one field, instead of two. There is no need to have a field that is just a link, since this is about IDs, not links. Alternatively, I do like Bob's suggestion of: How about "ID of Containing Collection" with another item "Name of Containing Collection", perhaps with the first being preferred.

    AnnetteOlson 00:07, 3 September 2010 (CEST)

    Also, The MRTG section header is confusing - what is meant by an ID must reference a collection ID?AnnetteOlson 00:07, 3 September 2010 (CEST)
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* Usage remains unclear to me. duplicate of Resource ID? Why restricted to media resources, but not Collections? Should this be something like "relation or unknown kind"? --GregorHagedorn 12:23, 23 February 2009 (CET)
    • Definition is too vague about "and by which the media resources are linked to their collection." --BobMorris 20:53, 13 February 2009 (CET)
    • Is there no requirement that the ID be the MRTG ID? --BobMorris 17:38, 14 March 2009 (CET)
    Name:
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    mrtg:relatedResourceID [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: Resource related in ways not specified through a collection.
    • Before-after images
    • Time-lapse series
    • Different orientations/angles of view
    Name:Provider ID
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:providerID [2]
      Layer: Extended — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A globally unique ID of the provider of the current MRTG metadata record.
    Comments:Only to be used if the annotated resource is not a provider itself - this item is for relating the resource to a provider, using an arbitrary code that is unique for a provider, contributing partner, or aggregator, or other roles (potentially defined by MARC, OAI) and by which the media resources are linked to the provider. -
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "need to figure out how to handle aggregation depending on whether cataloging the collection, or an individual media (or a provider), this would be the dc identifier or relation field" (from the spreadsheet). - Definition is too vague about "and by which the media resources are linked to their collection." --BobMorris 20:53, 13 February 2009 (CET)
    • We discussed possible misunderstandings of provider in Woods Hole. Should this perhaps be: ServiceAttributionURI: "A URI that identifies the primary provider of either the data or metadata, whichever is desired and agreed upon by media resource and metadata provider. Client software displaying the results of metadata searches are being requested to display for each resource the following attributions (if available): resource creator, copyright owner, collection context, and the ServiceAttributionURI. If ServiceAttributionURI matches a homepage of a data or service provider record, in addition to the URI title, description, or logo are requested to display." --GregorHagedorn 12:23, 23 February 2009 (CET)
    • for NCD Institution Identifier comes closest: "The URI (LSID or URL) of the institution. In RDF this will be used as URI of the institution resource."
    • Not sure if my Definition herewith added is clear --BobMorris 03:48, 14 February 2010 (CET)
    Name:Derived From
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    mrtg:derivedFrom [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: Yes
    Definition: A reference to an original resource from which the current one is derived.
    Comments:Derivation of one resource from another is of special interest for identification tools (e. g. a key from an unpublished data set, as in FRIDA, or a PDA key from a PC or web key) or web services (e. g. a name synonymization service being derived from a specific data set). It may very rarely also be known where one image or sound recording is derived from another (but compare the separate mechanism to be used for quality/resolution levels). – Human readable, or doi number, or URL.. Simple name of parent for human readable. Can be repeatedable if a montage of images.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* This is not intended for different display resolutions, for which different quality level URLs are available
    • What is the difference between Derived From and Published Source?
      • This is more general and published source carries a special semantics of published item. I am not sure both are needed though! --GregorHagedorn 01:21, 3 March 2009 (CET)
      • This element suffers from the same problem of confusion about "what is the source from which a resource is derived" as I discussed in the Published Source item. --Steve Baskauf 17:25, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    • For NCD Derived Collection ncd:[7] comes closest "A "derived" collection record. The record has been derived from a query on an item-level database e. g. all items from Australia.".
    Name:Associated Specimen Reference
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:associatedSpecimenReference [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: a reference to a specimen associated with this resource.
    Comments:Supports to find a specimen resource, where additional information is available. If several resources relate to the same specimen, these are implicitly related. Examples: for NHM �-Y΄BM 23974324‘ for a barcoded or ΄BM Smith 32‘ for a non-barcoded specimen; for UNITS: ΄TSB 28637‘; for PMSL: ΄PMSL-Lepidoptera-2534781‘. Ideally this could be a URI identifying a specimen record that is online available.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* "question of whether we have both an encoded URI/vocab, but also get a free text." from spreadsheet
    • Is this the same as DwC:RelatedResourceID - "A global unique identifier to a related resource."
    • I won't repeat what I already wrote in the discussion of Published Source, but again it seems to me that what we need here is simply Dublin Core "Source", which is clearly defined as "A related resource from which the described resource is derived". It seems to me that we are creating unnecessary complexity by defining separate terms depending on if an image came from a specimen, a live plant, or a digitized slide. All of these physical resources can be referenced by the URL of their online record (and they should have one) or eventually by their LSID (assuming LSIDs ever get off the ground). If there aren't online references, then create a VerbatimSource field to be populated with whatever text description there is for locating the resource. But don't create several different elements when one will do. --Steve Baskauf 17:25, 30 April 2009 (CEST)
    • At the moment, I somewhat agree with Steve, but (a)MRTG metadata need not refer to a digital object, so there is not necessarily an existing URL to give context and (b)dc:Source seems too vague to me. If something is marked as dc:Source, how do we know it refers to a specimen? --BobMorris 22:08, 23 January 2010 (CET)
    Name:Associated Observation Reference
    Normative URI:

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    mrtg:associatedObservationReference [2]
      Layer: Core — Required: No — Repeatable: No
    Definition: A reference to an observation associated with this resource.
    Legacy Discussion. Do not contribute here. See "Post Review Discussion"* This will need coordination with the Observation Working Group --BobMorris 20:53, 13 February 2009 (CET)
    • Same thing here as above. Why are we creating another specific field when one generic field will do? If it is necessary to know what kind of resource the source is, then create an element called SourceType and populate it with valid Type terms from a controlled vocabulary, i.e. Darwin Core Type vocabulary. Thus a more generalized system could be: Source (hopefully an LSID or URL to an online record), VerbatumSource (a human-readable text description of where to find the source), and SourceType (a controlled DwC vocabulary, including physical specimen, observation, still image, etc.)

    --Steve Baskauf 17:25, 30 April 2009 (CEST)

    • Same thing here as above. :-) --BobMorris 22:08, 23 January 2010 (CET)


    14 Controlled Vocabularies

    In several cases MRTG requires or recommends controlled vocabularies. In addition to being referenced in the respective fields, we provide some links to analyses here.

    15 References

    1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 dcterms = http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/
    2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 2.19 2.20 2.21 2.22 2.23 2.24 2.25 2.26 2.27 2.28 2.29 2.30 2.31 2.32 2.33 2.34 2.35 2.36 2.37 2.38 2.39 mrtg = http://xxx.org/XXX
    3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 xmp = http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/, see XMP Specification Part 1, Sec 8.4 XMP does not have an explicit w3c XML-Schema. An "XMP Schema" is actually defined in RDF.
    4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 xmpRights = http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/rights/, see XMP Specification Part 1, Sec 8.5
    5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 Iptc4xmpExt = http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/1.0/xmlns/ - Note: the namespace is not resolvable; as of 2011-06-25 the specification is available as PDF.
    6. photoshop = http://ns.adobe.com/photonewshop/1.0/
    7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 7.8 7.9 ncd = http://rs.tdwg.org/ontology/voc/Collection#
    8. 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 8.16 8.17 8.18 8.19 8.20 8.21 8.22 8.23 8.24 dwc = http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm
    9. NASA Global Change Master Directory http://gcmd.nasa.gov/
    10. Subject Categories defined in Key to Nature: http://www.keytonature.eu/wiki/Subject_Category
    11. BioComplexity Thesaurus http://thesaurus.nbii.gov
    12. GEMET http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gemet


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